You having a nice evening?

Originally posted by orion25
You're wrong GB, happiness doesn't come from inner will, but from restraint. I can WANT to be happy, and still not be it. The trick of being happy is not trying to.

Also, to avoid being unhappy helps a lot.

Originally posted by orion25
Also, to avoid being unhappy helps a lot.

Any further insights?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Any further insights?

eh... tomorrow maybe, that one was tiring enough for today.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Yes, but in perspective "loud music" is little more than a lightfoot attack of some mice brigade.

Stick around and prepare for the charge of invisible elephants. They're already on the horizon.

Inarguably true, but alas small comfort from the yet-elephant-free perspective. And sound-proofing is expensive.

Originally posted by orion25
eh... tomorrow maybe, that one was tiring enough for today.

We're good.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Inarguably true, but alas small comfort from the yet-elephant-free perspective. And sound-proofing is expensive.

Your thoughts on the arcane question raised on page 1, post 11?

Originally posted by orion25
You're wrong GB, happiness doesn't come from inner will, but from restraint. I can WANT to be happy, and still not be it. The trick of being happy is not trying to.

Maybe you're not wanting it enough.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Maybe you're not wanting it enough.

The point is there are external factors about which you can do nothing, no matter how much you wish to.

Also, since wishing is not having, and wishing is acknowledging you miss something, if you must wish to be happy, you will not be it.

Originally posted by orion25
The point is there are external factors about which you can do nothing, no matter how much you wish to.

Also, since wishing is not having, and wishing is acknowledging you miss something, if you must wish to be happy, you will not be it.

I was thinking more along the lines of wanting, i.e., a desire which prompts action--- either thinking, changing circumstances, or both.

For instance, if my happiness is based upon the next thing, I would submit that my thinking is wrong. Not to get too spiritual about it, but this is one of the main errors of many Christians. They believe that all of the perceived pain they endure in this life will somehow be 'avenged' or rewarded by the next life. What a miserable way to live, as well as at complete odds with the stated mission of the Bible.

If I am not happy right here, right now--- regardless of my circumstances--- I don't see how I would be happy for any length of time in any situation.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Your thoughts on the arcane question raised on page 1, post 11?

It's not beyond the realms possibility in my book. Also leans into ideas of shared consciousness which I find attractive.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I was thinking more along the lines of wanting, i.e., a desire which prompts action--- either thinking, changing circumstances, or both.

For instance, if my happiness is based upon the next thing, I would submit that my thinking is wrong. Not to get too spiritual about it, but this is one of the main errors of many Christians. They believe that all of ...[text shortened]... my circumstances--- I don't see how I would be happy for any length of time in any situation.

Agreeing with you again!

Yes, desire which prompts action which makes you content. The problem is, action does not mean result. Again, there are external factors which you just can't influence or change or alter no matter how much you wish or do about it.
As for christians I don't really care, but I guess if their belief makes them happy, then why not let them keep believing.

You finish saying that

If I am not happy right here, right now--- regardless of my circumstances--- I don't see how I would be happy for any length of time in any situation.

about which I couldn't agree more.