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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Actually my analysis is looking like a Machine-Machine game. I'll update when the analysis finishes and I'm more sure.
What you got under the hood?

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
What you got under the hood?

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A64 3500+ 1GB RAM running Fritz 8 on Full Analysis with zero threshold.

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Right here is the output after being cleaned up. After just running Fritz on Full Analysis (60s) I had a number of disagreements. However checking those moves again gave the text move after a longer time to calculate.

[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator "Fritz 8 (60s)"]
[PlyCount "79"]

{C92: Closed Ruy Lopez: 9...Be6, Karpov and Flohr-Zaitsev Variations} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. a4 h6 13. Bc2 exd4 14. cxd4 Nb4 15. Bb1 c5 16. d5 Nd7 17. Ra3 f5 18. exf5 Nxd5N 19. Ne4 N5b6 20. axb5 axb5 21. f6 Rxa3 22. bxa3 Nxf6 23. Nxf6+ gxf6 24. Be3 (24. Rxe8) 24... Nc4 25. Nh4 Nxe3 26. Qh5 (26. Rxe3) 26... Re5 27. Qg6+ Bg7 28. Qh7+ Kf7 29. Rxe3 Rxe3 30. fxe3 f5 31. Qg6+ Kf8 32. Nxf5 Qf6 33. Qg3 Qe5 34. Qg6 Bc6 35. Nxg7 Qxe3+ 36. Kf1 Qf4+ 37. Ke2 Qe5+ 38. Kf1 Qf4+ 39. Ke2 Qe5+ 40. Kf1 1/2-1/2

44 non-book moves made by each side. White matches 42 times. Black matches 44 times.

This seems to be a very strong indication that this is an Engine Engine match.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Right here is the output after being cleaned up. After just running Fritz on Full Analysis (60s) I had a number of disagreements. However checking those moves again gave the text move after a longer time to calculate.

[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator "Fritz 8 (60s)"]
[PlyCount "79"]

{C92: Closed Ruy Lopez: 9...Be6, ...[text shortened]... hes 44 times.

This seems to be a very strong indication that this is an Engine Engine match.
Shredder9 vs Shredder9

You got that one pretty easy.

Here is another.


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Bd7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. f3 e6 8. g4
h6 9. Qd2 a6 10. O-O-O b5 11. h4 b4 12. Nce2 Qa5 13. Kb1 Rc8 14. Rg1 Ne5 15.
Nc1 g6 16. g5 hxg5 17. hxg5 Nh5 18. a3 Nc4 19. Bxc4 Rxc4 20. Na2 Rc8 21. Nxb4
Qa4 22. Ka2 Qa5 23. Qd3 Ng7 24. c3 e5 25. Nb3 Qb5 26. Nd5 Qxd3 27. Rxd3 Bb5 28.
Rd2 Rh3 29. Rf2 Bd7 30. Na5 Be6 31. c4 Nh5 32. b3 Bxd5 33. exd5 Ng3 34. Nc6 Kd7
35. b4 Nf5 36. Bd2 Ne7 37. Na5 Nf5 38. Re1 Bg7 39. Nc6 Nd4 40. Nxd4 exd4 41.
Kb3 d3 42. Re4 Rh1 43. Rf4 Be5 44. Rxf7+ Ke8 45. Rb7 Rb1+ 46. Ka4 Rb2 47. Rh7
Bf4 48. Bxf4 Rxf2 49. Rh8+ Kd7 50. Rh7+ Ke8 1/2-1/2

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Right here is the output after being cleaned up. After just running Fritz on Full Analysis (60s) I had a number of disagreements. However checking those moves again gave the text move after a longer time to calculate.

[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator "Fritz 8 (60s)"]
[PlyCount "79"]

{C92: Closed Ruy Lopez: 9...Be6, ...[text shortened]... hes 44 times.

This seems to be a very strong indication that this is an Engine Engine match.
Are those numbers right? The game is only 40 moves???? Plus the first 18 or so moves are Data.....

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Are those numbers right? The game is only 40 moves???? Plus the first 18 or so moves are Data.....

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Yeah sorry they should be 20 out of 22 and 22 out of 22. Forgot to divide by two when calculating moves from ply.

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Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
Shredder9 vs Shredder9

You got that one pretty easy.

Here is another.


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Bd7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. f3 e6 8. g4
h6 9. Qd2 a6 10. O-O-O b5 11. h4 b4 12. Nce2 Qa5 13. Kb1 Rc8 14. Rg1 Ne5 15.
Nc1 g6 16. g5 hxg5 17. hxg5 Nh5 18. a3 Nc4 19. Bxc4 Rxc4 20. Na2 Rc8 21. Nxb4
Qa4 22. Ka2 Qa5 23. Qd3 Ng7 24. c3 ...[text shortened]... Rxf7+ Ke8 45. Rb7 Rb1+ 46. Ka4 Rb2 47. Rh7
Bf4 48. Bxf4 Rxf2 49. Rh8+ Kd7 50. Rh7+ Ke8 1/2-1/2
black is definitely an engine here, maybe white too.

BTW: isn't it more fun to try to recognise the style of an engine? There isn't a challenge in analysing a game with an engine, to conclude that player A matched up 100% and player B 30%.
Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Yeah sorry they should be 20 out of 22 and 22 out of 22. Forgot to divide by two when calculating moves from ply.
Say it! Say what I want to hear!

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Originally posted by schakuhr
black is definitely an engine here, maybe white too.

BTW: isn't it more fun to try to recognise the style of an engine? There isn't a challenge in analysing a game with an engine, to conclude that player A matched up 100% and player B 30%.
Just my opinion.
I think White likes bubble baths and long walks on the beach, while Black tends to frequent the clubs and watch the ponies run on Sundays.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
black is definitely an engine here, maybe white too.

BTW: isn't it more fun to try to recognise the style of an engine? There isn't a challenge in analysing a game with an engine, to conclude that player A matched up 100% and player B 30%.
Just my opinion.
What was your match up rates and what makes you think black is an engine?

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I think White likes bubble baths and long walks on the beach, while Black tends to frequent the clubs and watch the ponies run on Sundays.

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White is Rapalla and Black is Ravello?

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Originally posted by darvlay
White is Rapalla and Black is Ravello?
Ya know, your avatar makes me feel like I need to wash.

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Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
Ya know, your avatar makes me feel like I need to wash.
Just wipe your chin off and you'll be fine! 🙂

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Originally posted by darvlay
Say it! Say what I want to hear!
Guess I was wrong?

schakuhr: This exercise is so simple that you got the first one wrong. From what I can see so far you are wrong on the second one too. If RTH is good enough to withhold the result for another 15 minutes I'll publish my findings.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Guess I was wrong?

schakuhr: This exercise is so simple that you got the first one wrong. From what I can see so far you are wrong on the second one too. If RTH is good enough to withhold the result for another 15 minutes I'll publish my findings.
I can wait.

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