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The rating graph is exponential, reflecting the relative ease in improving from 1400 to 1900 (especially common for juniors), and the relative severity of the ascent from 2100 to 2500. The ascent from 2400 (IM) to 2700 (elite GM) is super-severe. Roughly 98% of all rated players never make it beyond 2100
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Originally posted by no1marauderdid they feel like playing against 1400-1500 at the time, or more like that their ratings were dragging behind their development? I'd guess it might take some time for a kid to get his rating properly established, possibly because of having just started tournament chess or simply not playing rated games frequently enough. I know jusuh went close to 2000 within his first two of years or so, but he had really been playing for much longer before joining his club and getting rated. I'd think a lot of youngsters might have a similar situation.
I'm had two examples from my OTB play of older teenagers going up a large number of rating points in a fairly short time.
I played Matt Slomski at the 2008 NYS Championship in September of that year. He was rated USCF 1452 at the time. Within a year, he was up to an 1873 and is now rated 1933.
I faced Lucas Knight at the 20 f anyone who went from a low rating to a GM norm in anything but a fairly long period of time.
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Originally posted by wormwoodBoth of these guys (I think they were both high schoolers) had played a lot more USCF tournaments than I had; Knight about 50 in barely over a year and Slomski well over 100. The Slomski game is given here: http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=99595&page=2; I think it's a reasonably played game and above 1450+ USCF level on both sides. Ditto for the Knight game, which was a Sicilian Dragon which got very tactical at the end (I'll post it if you're interested).
did they feel like playing against 1400-1500 at the time, or more like that their ratings were dragging behind their development? I'd guess it might take some time for a kid to get his rating properly established, possibly because of having just started tournament chess or simply not playing rated games frequently enough. I know jusuh went close to 2000 wit ...[text shortened]... ning his club and getting rated. I'd think a lot of youngsters might have a similar situation.
Both of these guys started pretty low and shot up pretty quick; they were in the 1000's after their first few tourneys so maybe they hadn't been playing for too long.
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by no1marauderthose darn kids! fortunately one day they'll become old as well...
Both of these guys (I think they were both high schoolers) had played a lot more USCF tournaments than I had; Knight about 50 in barely over a year and Slomski well over 100. The Slomski game is given here: http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=99595&page=2; I think it's a reasonably played game and above 1450+ USCF level on both sides. ...[text shortened]... n the 1000's after their first few tourneys so maybe they hadn't been playing for too long.
I'm always interested in dragon games, post away!
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by no1marauderMatt Slomski plays at the club I belong to. I'm currently 1360 after falling from 1450 over the past couple months and I actually beat him once when he was about 1400. He's beaten me on a couple other occasions, once when he was in the 1300's and once in the 1700's, probably only a year apart. He is very aggressive and a strong tactician. He plays quite a bit and I believe takes lessons from a local master.
Both of these guys (I think they were both high schoolers) had played a lot more USCF tournaments than I had; Knight about 50 in barely over a year and Slomski well over 100. The Slomski game is given here: http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=99595&page=2; I think it's a reasonably played game and above 1450+ USCF level on both sides. ...[text shortened]... n the 1000's after their first few tourneys so maybe they hadn't been playing for too long.
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Originally posted by passedpawn22Wow, small world.
Matt Slomski plays at the club I belong to. I'm currently 1360 after falling from 1450 over the past couple months and I actually beat him once when he was about 1400. He's beaten me on a couple other occasions, once when he was in the 1300's and once in the 1700's, probably only a year apart. He is very aggressive and a strong tactician. He plays quite a bit and I believe takes lessons from a local master.
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Originally posted by wormwood[Event "NYS Open - Rd #4"]
those darn kids! fortunately one day they'll become old as well...
I'm always interested in dragon games, post away!
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.05.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kevin J. Brown"]
[Black "Lucas Knight"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B77"]
[WhiteElo "1540"]
[BlackElo "1587"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2
O-O 9. Bc4 Bd7 10. a3 Rc8 11. Nxc6 Rxc6 12. Bb3 a6 13. Bd4 b5 14. Nd5 e6 15.
Nb4 Rb6 16. Bxb6 Qxb6 17. c3 a5 18. Nc2 d5 19. exd5 Nxd5 20. Bxd5 exd5 21.
O-O-O b4 22. axb4 axb4 23. Nxb4 Rc8 24. Nxd5 Qa5 25. Ne7+ Kh8 26. Qxd7 Rxc3+
27. Kb1 1-0
Not exactly a classic; he was going to lose a pawn on 16 and decided to sac the Exchange instead. I think I made a mistake in castling into his attack; if he had played 23 ..... d4 things would have been a bit sticky. All well that ends well I suppose.
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by greenpawn34wrecked
Magnus joins here?
You can just imagine his first post.
"Hi I'm Magnus Carlsen."
and then....
"Cheat. How come you got so good when 30 years ago you were not even born?"
Perhaps RHP should organise a massive meet-up.
Everyone has to bring their own stones.
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Originally posted by CCNoobC'mon now, you know the reason. It was a witch hunt on the cusp of success.
Funny? I think its [b]even funnier that there is no evidence from the FIDE rating list of 1400/1500 to IM/GM in a year to 18 months. In case you have any examples from the FIDE rating list, feel free to p.m. them to me. I posted a FIDE statistics question and even though that is unrelated to RHP it was deleted for [/b]unknown reasons.
10 Jan 10
Originally posted by WulebgrWhat witch-hunt? Statistics is statistics. We use something called the Elo system in chess and variations of it are used in association football, American college football and basketball, and Major League Baseball. If we used a copyrighted RHP rating system that is not in use elsewhere then you could claim copyright violation, DMCA etc. etc.
C'mon now, you know the reason. It was a witch hunt on the cusp of success.
Naming names or producing engine matches by a specific user could be termed as finger-pointing but how is statistics from FIDE a witch-hunt? Do tell.
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Originally posted by no1marauderyeah, it probably wasn't necessary to play into his last ditch attack. maybe you didn't even need to castle anymore, just block d4 and exchange everything off. he had nothing left except the mating attack on queenside. had you denied that from him, what's left? maybe deny the attack simply by Qf2 Re8+ Kf1, and what can black do? or Kd1-Nd4, althouh bishop coming to a4 might be nasty then. anyway, once white activates it's all over. as happened after castling as well. flashy finish.
[Event "NYS Open - Rd #4"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.05.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kevin J. Brown"]
[Black "Lucas Knight"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B77"]
[WhiteElo "1540"]
[BlackElo "1587"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2
O-O 9. Bc4 Bd7 10. a3 Rc8 11. Nxc6 Rxc6 ...[text shortened]... things would have been a bit sticky. All well that ends well I suppose.
just a thought, do you always go for the flashy finish instead of killing the counter play? maybe that's the root of your otb problems? in CC it works fine, but with time restraints... I'm sure it's gonna backfire a lot. I know I've had to battle that urge a lot to get my blitz working...
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Originally posted by wormwoodQuite the contrary; I usually look to simplify once I have a material advantage. I think I just wanted to get the Rook onto the half open d-file and figured I might as well castle while I was at it. But I obviously underestimated Black's counterattacking possibilities.
yeah, it probably wasn't necessary to play into his last ditch attack. maybe you didn't even need to castle anymore, just block d4 and exchange everything off. he had nothing left except the mating attack on queenside. had you denied that from him, what's left? maybe deny the attack simply by Qf2 Re8+ Kf1, and what can black do? or Kd1-Nd4, althouh bishop c nna backfire a lot. I know I've had to battle that urge a lot to get my blitz working...
EDIT: I also clearly didn't like my King being on an open file.