Originally posted by marinakatombI don't think it should be too hard - the site already allows you to store text along with a game in the notebook w/o any special downloaded software. Now this just needs to have a separate notebook entry for each move. Yes, that's a space demand, but shouldn't be bad for text and probably not every move annotated.
I think it'd be very difficult to do on this site without making users download some software. The functionality your talking about would be hard to program to work in a browser (if it's possible at all).
Which program do u guys use for self analysis? I don't want to see what the computer thinks of the position and the possible moves so i use fritz on analysis mode and hide the main engine and evaluation pane.. That's the only way i can figure out so far to enter variation without overwriting the actual game moves...
Also if anyone wants to analyse my games feel free..I'm at 1714 OTB rating if that helps?? i'm going through them one by one, starting from the very first one....i'm done 9 of them so far. then i'm going to let fritz analyse them and see how close i came with my analysis... Usually i just enter my OTB games into fritz over the weekend, look at the analysis and then thats it... Doing it myself is more funner and might help more but its also very hard finding improvements by myself.. Using fritz however, i could find a lot of improvements but thats cheating if u're self analysing...
Marinakatomb, mate, perhaps as the thread's host you could pair people off? As it stands, everyone are gathered against the walls looking awkward, and the songs almost half through.
The band's going at it with a passion, people, so let's Waltz!
*Dyl dances off to another thread where he will be accepted for who he is*
Originally posted by Dfthdsure, Ill analyze with you. Can you start with analyzing the next game for me:
Hi guys I'd really like to find a partner to exchange analysis with.
Game 976020
thanks already
Thanks a lot Xathos, i've been a bit busy of late, i'll PM you my analysis next week if that's ok 😉Game 617288
Mephisto2 (2185) - marinakatomb (1528)
B07 - Pirc Defence: Miscellaneous Systems
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.f4 Nbd7
Inserted for completeness.
5.Nf3 exd4 6.Qxd4 c6 7.Be3 Be7 8.0-0-0 0-0 9.h3 b5 10.e5 Ne8 11.Bd3
All the moves here are book however the lines begin to greatly favour white near the end.
11. .... d5(N)
The novelty of the game, Bb7 had been played before for a white win. I find nothing wrong with d5 here and really would probably prefer it over Bb7.
12.Ng5 g6
Your move here looks to be aiming to consolidate f5 which is a decent plan. I think however that Bxg5 would be a better move (12. ... Bxg5 13. fxg5 Qe7 += )
13.e6 Bc5?
This here is your major error, if you had instead played Bf6 (or Bxg5 perhaps) you may have stayed close (although both lead to ±, Bc5 leads to a won game for white.
14.exf7+ Rxf7 15.Qh8+ Kxh8 16.Nxf7+ Kg8
Perhaps staying on dark squares with Kg7 would be a better plan as you are about to take white's dark square bishop and the light squared one is still at large.
17.Nxd8 Bxe3+ 18.Kb1 b4 19.Rhe1 d4 20.Bc4+ Kh8
While it wouldn't have changed the result Kg7 was better here also. (20. ... Kg7 21. Ne6+ Kh6 22. Nxd4 Bxf4 23. Rxe8 bxc3 24. Be6 +- )
21.Rxd4 Bxd4 22.Rxe8+ Kg7 23.Rg8+ Kf6 24.Ne4+ Kf5 25.Nd6+ Kf6
Kxf4 would have shown more resistance but the game is clearly over.
26.Nxc6
All over bar the shouting.
1-0
I'm going to add my own comments with this soon, if anyone has anything to add, this is a forum 😉
I also have the pleasure of posting this analysis done by schakuhr. Many thanks for your time and effort, it's much appretiated 🙂
Game 660971
instead of 7. Qc4, why not 7. Nb5!
black could answer per example:
1) 7. ...Qxc2 8. Bd3 Qc6 9. Bf4 and the knight attack on c7 will soon follow.
2) 7. ...Qb8 8. Qc3 Kd8 9. Be3 and blacks position is pretty messed up.
any other move will lose fast, mainly because of white's queens position and the knight attack on c7.
I wondered why you moved 13. Nxb5? you immediatly lose your knight. It was mainly because of this mistake that you drawed your game I think.
You could have played 13. Qd4 or (even better) 13. Qb5.
18. Qe4? Why not immediatly put pressure on black's king by moving 18. Qh4! ?
The endgame was quite good, although I think your opponent could have easily won.
Game 617288
Mephisto2 (2185) - marinakatomb (1528)
B07 - Pirc Defence: Miscellaneous Systems
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.f4 Nbd7
Inserted for completeness.
5.Nf3 exd4 6.Qxd4 c6 7.Be3 Be7 8.0-0-0 0-0 9.h3 b5 10.e5 Ne8 11.Bd3
All the moves here are book however the lines begin to greatly favour white near the end.
11. .... d5(N)
The novelty of the game, Bb7 had been played before for a white win. I find nothing wrong with d5 here and really would probably prefer it over Bb7.
12.Ng5 g6
Your move here looks to be aiming to consolidate f5 which is a decent plan. I think however that Bxg5 would be a better move (12. ... Bxg5 13. fxg5 Qe7 += )
so far, I agree with your analysis.
13.e6 Bc5?
This here is your major error, if you had instead played Bf6 (or Bxg5 perhaps) you may have stayed close (although both lead to ±, Bc5 leads to a won game for white.
I would like to add that I think Bxg5 is the best move. Bf6 leads to 14. exf7+ Rxf7 (forced, on Kg7 follows 15. Ne6+! and on Kh8 white simply gets the knight on e8.) and black has lost his rook. with Bxg5, you don't lose too much.
The rest of the comments get my credit.
Originally posted by schakuhrThanks for your views.
[b]Game 617288
I would like to add that I think Bxg5 is the best move. Bf6 leads to 14. exf7+ Rxf7 (forced, on Kg7 follows 15. Ne6+! and on Kh8 white simply gets the knight on e8.) and black has lost his rook. with Bxg5, you don't lose too much.
I looked at 13. ... Bxg5 and saw 14. exd7 Bf6 15. dxe8=Q Rxe8 16. Qc5 and continuing (16. ... Rxe3 17. Qxe3 d4 18. Bxb5 cxb5 19. Qd3 perhaps?) advantage to white.
However I view the position after 13. ... Bf6 14. exf7+ Rxf7 15. Nxf7 Kxf7 as even (despite first impressions). My reason for this is if you look deeper you see that white has severe queen issues. 16. Qb4 a5 17. Qb3 a4 18. Qa3 b4 19. Qxb4 Be7 20. Qd4 Bf6 and white must play a bad move to not draw by repetition.
Perhaps I should have elaborated more in my final analysis but I mistakenly thought only I would be interested in such an extended variation.
Originally posted by XanthosNZOfcourse not. white just moves 21. Bxg6+! hxg6 and then 22. Qd2 or 22. Qd3, and he keeps a material plus.
However I view the position after 13. ... Bf6 14. exf7+ Rxf7 15. Nxf7 Kxf7 as even (despite first impressions). My reason for this is if you look deeper you see that white has severe queen issues. 16. Qb4 a5 17. Qb3 a4 18. Qa3 b4 19. Qxb4 Be7 20. Qd4 Bf6 and white must play a bad move to not draw by repetition.
Originally posted by schakuhrAfter 22. Qd3 Nb6 and I'd be quite happy as black (granted not against Mephisto2). White may have a material advantage but I feel the position favours black.
Ofcourse not. white just moves 21. Bxg6+! hxg6 and then 22. Qd2 or 22. Qd3, and he keeps a material plus.
If you feel black is lost at this point I'm quite willing to play a set piece game to help find out who is right.
Note: No offense intended in this or any other post on this discussion. I'm just arguing for what I feel is the correct analysis.
