10 Jul 06
Originally posted by WulebgrThev rules clearly state that you must press your clock with the same hand used to make your move.
In a time scramble, my opponent hovers his hands over the board, moves his piece while my hand is moving from the board to the clock and depresses the button on the clock before I have fully depressed mine. Can I appeal to the TD?
And you certainly cannot make your before before your opponent has made theirs.
10 Jul 06
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Originally posted by Essex 3Ehr,yes,that would be square f6,not f4 LOL
I suppose it was just a slip on your part, but a Bishop can never be in a position where it has the possibility of moving to all of the three squares e5,d4 and f4. That's not very important for the point under discussion. But what is vital is that once a player has let go of the man he has moved, he cannot alter the actual move on the board,
and if he has n r his next move instead of his own, and pretend to stop his own clock after his own next move.
Why can he not alter the move once he lets go?If I make an illegal move I am allowed to alter it,though I'll have to play the touched piece if possible.I would think that rule also applies for legal moves.
Gonna see if I can find the complete "touch piece" rule somewhere on the fide site.
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Yup,you're right.Just wait 'till I get my hands on the bozo who taught me wrong 😛
"4.6 When, as a legal move or part of a legal move, a piece has been released on a square, it cannot then be moved to another square. The move is considered to have been made when all the relevant requirements of Article 3 have been fulfilled. "
10 Jul 06
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Originally posted by GorgarOnce you have touched a piece you must move it.
Ehr,yes,that would be square f6,not f4 LOL
Why can he not alter the move once he lets go?If I make an illegal move I am allowed to alter it,though I'll have to play the touched piece if possible.I would think that rule also applies for legal moves.
Gonna see if I can find the complete "touch piece" rule somewhere on the fide site.
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Yup,you're righ to have been made when all the relevant requirements of Article 3 have been fulfilled. "
Once you have removed your hand from it you can not change your move.
You can still lose on time if your clock falls before you have pressed it and your opponent points this out before his clock has also fallen (it is acceptable to stop the clocks immediately in such circumstances).
In some lightning tournments FIDE rules are modified to allow a player to change his mind and alter his move (but generally not the piece touched) before pressing his clock. In these circumstances the move is only complete once the clock has been pressed.
There are certain circumstances where a touched piece (even if you have removed your hand) need not be moved. For example if the move is illegal because it cannot move to the square upon which it was placed or you have left your king in check. In such circumstances you must make a legal move with that piece. If you cannot make a legal move you can make any other legal move.
In lightning tournaments the rules are sometimes modified with respect to this either to create a time penalty or an outright loss.
I have seen some lightning tournaments where a player has made an error and moved the black B onto a white square and it has only been noticed many moves later. Can someone enlighten me on what the rule is in those circumstances (especially if the next round starts 10 minutes later)
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10 Jul 06
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I recall reading about a Korchnoi vs Karpov (I think) game in which Korchnoi got up from the board walked over to the arbiter and asked the poor fellow if he could castle queenside while his rook was attacked by Karpov's bishop the presumingly shocked arbiter told Korchnoi that he could indeed castle. After the game when asked about the incident Korchnoi said something to the effect of "It had never come up before"
10 Jul 06
Originally posted by BedlamYes, this story has been mentioned on here before and it is indeed true. (However, I don't remember if it was Korchnoi or some other GM)
I recall reading about a Korchnoi vs Karpov (I think) game in which Korchnoi got up from the board walked over to the arbiter and asked the poor fellow if he could castle queenside while his rook was attacked by Karpov's bishop the presumingly shocked arbiter told Korchnoi that he could indeed castle. After the game when asked about the incident Korchnoi said something to the effect of "It had never come up before"
10 Jul 06
Originally posted by Shinidokiyou were rude.
Not trying to be rude - but topics like this simply waste forum space - all you had to do is go to google "type rules of castling Check" find a website and veiw it cached
that way, all the searched words will be highlighted in pretty colours.
but no, Instead of showing a little inititive you use the forum --
so, seeing as your incapable of usi ...[text shortened]... s not prevent you from castling, as long as the conditions mentioned above are fulfilled. "
And quite ignorant aswell.
11 Jul 06
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundwell lets ignore "your book" and use a dictionary - seeing as your definition of 'ignorence' seems to suck the big one.
Trying to make a fool of a begginer, thats ignorance in my book.
According to Dictionary.com
Ignorance.
"The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed"
"the lack of knowledge or education"
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Now - here comes my question - How the hell would me "making a fool" of a 'begginer' be an act of ignorence? - this is of course assuming we live in a perfect world and people use words correctly
11 Jul 06
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Originally posted by Shinidokiwell for a start -well lets ignore "your book" and use a dictionary - seeing as your definition of 'ignorence' seems to suck the big one.
well lets ignore "your book" and use a dictionary - seeing as your definition of 'ignorence' seems to suck the big one.
According to Dictionary.com
Ignorance.
"The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed"
"the lack of knowledge or education"
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Now - here comes my question - How this is of course assuming we live in a perfect world and people use words correctly
Ignorence isn't a word, thats pretty uneducated
And taking advantage of a begginer seems like the thing an uneducated person would do.
These things, to me, are a show of ignorance.
ha ha h ha ha . . . plonker
11 Jul 06
Originally posted by huckleberryhound"Ignorence isn't a word, thats pretty uneducated"
well for a start -[b]well lets ignore "your book" and use a dictionary - seeing as your definition of 'ignorence' seems to suck the big one.
These things, to me, are a show of ignorance.
ha ha h ha ha . . . plonker[/b]
Yes! because thats a great idea, base your entire point on a spelling mistake/typo!!!
Its a forum, not a peice of journalism.
"And taking advantage of a begginer seems like the thing an uneducated person would do"
well done, you managed to make a point, albeit it a crap one.
lets awnser this one in bullet points.
1) are you sure my original intention was to 'take advantage' - i mean, how the hell was a 'taking advantage'?
perheps it was just an atempt to redirect his easily awnsered questions elsewhere (i.e Google)
2) how is making fun/taking advantage of "n00bs" the hallmark of the uneducated??
12 Jul 06
Originally posted by Davi5678Common practice on this site!
now what I find amusing is that I am wasting forum space because I asked a question about chess rules on a chess forum as opposed to googling though mountains of crap for an answer but this thread has gone past 26 posts with people flaming each other!
12 Jul 06
Originally posted by ShinidokiShinidoki you waste valuable air by breathing.
Not trying to be rude - but topics like this simply waste forum space - all you had to do is go to google "type rules of castling Check" find a website and veiw it cached
that way, all the searched words will be highlighted in pretty colours.
but no, Instead of showing a little inititive you use the forum --
so, seeing as your incapable of usi ...[text shortened]... s not prevent you from castling, as long as the conditions mentioned above are fulfilled. "
How dare someone post a question about chess on a chess forum!
Stop being so precious about your little forum & get out more.
12 Jul 06
But ignorant - how?[/b]I would say it appears to be ignorant of the value of encouraging newcomers to the site - a newcomer who has posed a question about chess on a chess website! I would have found your comments quite discouraging and might have looked elsewhere for a more friendly environment to devlop my interest in chess.
However if your intention was to discourage the newcomer then I have to agree this is not ignorance at all. Just rude. It would be great if you were to join the ranks of RHP members who welcome and encourage newcomers whatever there level of chess knowledge. Any chance of this?