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Originally posted by z00t
You cannot compare apples with oranges. Having said that ChessMaster 10 can only be compared in strength to Fritz 1 or Fritz 2 any version of Fritz i.e. 8 9 or 10 will simply be genocide versus ChessMaster.

Get over ChessMaster, its like getting over Win95 or loss of Fischer from Chess .... something else comes along.
I believe that Chessmaster 10 is better than Fritz 5.32, and perhaps better than Fritz 6.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I believe that Chessmaster 10 is better than Fritz 5.32, and perhaps better than Fritz 6.
What chess programs do you own? May I ask if it's not personal. 😕

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Originally posted by GinoJ
What chess programs do you own? May I ask if it's not personal. 😕
ChessBase 8; Fritz 7, 8, 9; Hiarcs 9; Chess Informant Reader and CIE Expert with a significant percentage of the CI issues; Chess Captor (excellent for creating diagrams for printing); Maurice Ashley Teaches Chess; Chessica and TASC Chess Tutor; Chessmaster 10th, 7000 (on computers no longer in use, I have had most versions going back to 2100); and such freeware as Winboard and Arena with more than 60 engines installed.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
ChessBase 8; Fritz 7, 8, 9; Hiarcs 9; Chess Informant Reader and CIE Expert with a significant percentage of the CI issues; Chess Captor (excellent for creating diagrams for printing); Maurice Ashley Teaches Chess; Chessica and TASC Chess Tutor; Chessmaster 10th, 7000 (on computers no longer in use, I have had most versions going back to 2100); and such freeware as Winboard and Arena with more than 60 engines installed.
Is Chessbase 8 worth the money?

I've read the article on www.chessbase.com, steve lopez and he goes over a lot of cool chessbase database features but besides that what else is there?

From what I seen, it's over $100 and comes with a fritz program as well.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Is Chessbase 8 worth the money?

I've read the article on www.chessbase.com, steve lopez and he goes over a lot of cool chessbase database features but besides that what else is there?

From what I seen, it's over $100 and comes with a fritz program as well.
ChessBase 9 is out now. I bought 8 several years ago for $125. It came with Fritz 5.32 as an analysis engine, as well as some version of Crafty. It is the premier database program. I use it daily.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
ChessBase 9 is out now. I bought 8 several years ago for $125. It came with Fritz 5.32 as an analysis engine, as well as some version of Crafty. It is the premier database program. I use it daily.
I like the piece placement graph function. I read about it on the chessbase t-notes.

You click on the a1 rook in say the caro-kann exchange and it draw bar graphs on the whole board. The higher the bar, the more times it has landed on that square.

Pretty neat.

What else do you use it for besides entering new games into the database and organizing the games?

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Originally posted by RahimK
What else do you use it for besides entering new games into the database and organizing the games?
I used ChessBase 8 to create this web page: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/wulebgr/Games/wulebgrimjohn.htm

The ChessBase search capabilities allows me to find just about anything I want. Someone asked a question here a few months ago regarding a queen vs two rooks. I was able to bring up in a few seconds the GM games that had that imbalance.

Looking for teaching materials for checkmate with two bishops, I found a game in which an IM had failed to checkmate. I use the mate in four that he missed to teach others how to succeed. (From one of the players of that game I klearned that it was an issue of time pressure.)

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I disagree. It's not only the raw strength of the program that matters, but how you can use this strength in sparring, analysis, and instruction. Fritz whips Chessmaster because the softeware is better in every aspect except lessons for beginners, not because the engine is stronger (although it is).

Fritz is better for analysis and sparring, too. Chessmas ...[text shortened]... or tablebase integration. For endgame practice and analysis, Chessmaster is no match for Fritz.
Ok, I agree with most things that you mentioned. Only I do not understand why is so common to say that chessmaster 10 lessons are for begginers? You have various levels,from begginer to very advanced ("match the masters", 50 HARD puzzles, advanced lessons, endgame tests, rating exam on various themes) and I would say the easier part of tutorials it is not only for chess begginers, those are chess fundamentals. And some of those, while progressing is easy to forget after a little bit of time, so I use this tutorial to refresh my fundamentals knowledge, some of exams in Waitzkin academy are fantastic, with amazing positions and interactions beetwen pieces so it is good for begginers but even for 1800-1900 players, I think...

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Ok, I agree with most things that you mentioned. Only I do not understand why is so common to say that chessmaster 10 lessons are for begginers? You have various levels,from begginer to very advanced ("match the masters", 50 HARD puzzles, advanced lessons, endgame tests, rating exam on various themes) and I would say the easier part of tutorials it is not o ...[text shortened]... ractions beetwen pieces so it is good for begginers but even for 1800-1900 players, I think...
Not all of Chessmaster's lessons are for beginners, but those that are are superior to Fritz. Only in the lessons for beginners does Chessmaster shine relative to Fritz.

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Fritz would win easily.

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Originally posted by Falco Lombardi
Fritz would win easily.
sorta like Ohio State?

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I used ChessBase 8 to create this web page: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/wulebgr/Games/wulebgrimjohn.htm

The ChessBase search capabilities allows me to find just about anything I want. Someone asked a question here a few months ago regarding a queen vs two rooks. I was able to bring up in a few seconds the GM games that had that imbalance.

Looking f ...[text shortened]... ucceed. (From one of the players of that game I klearned that it was an issue of time pressure.)
I know fritz has similar features but harder to use. Interesting program.


You just have the one game on your site?

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Originally posted by RahimK
You just have the one game on your site?
There are six; link from http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/wulebgr/games.htm

None are recent.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
There are six; link from http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/wulebgr/games.htm

None are recent.
Okay I see them now 🙂

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