13 Jun 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZWhat's Winboard [can't be bothered to google it] and in what way is it better/different from the analyse board - if it is?
Putrid.
Tommy has covered the accusations and he's right. You accused someone of cheating, reiterated the accusation and now you're doing it again. You also claimed that admitting to using Winboard was admitting to cheating. This shows a clear misunderstanding of what Winboard is. Classy from start to finish.
As for using the analyse board, it's crap. Simple as that.
13 Jun 06
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Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveWinboard is an interface you can paste PGN or Fen into and play a line like the analysis board. It is better since you can copy back out the pgn, and paste them to your notebook if you like.
What's Winboard [can't be bothered to google it] and in what way is it better/different from the analyse board - if it is?
It also includes an engine you can shut off, and the engine isn't that strong anyway... but if used properly you don't even care about the engine. You can even use more powerful engines with Winboard, but that is what I hope is not being done.
I use it for most of my games, since you can save if you like, add more notes, and copy them to game notes at RHP.
http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html
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13 Jun 06
Originally posted by PhlabibitIt does?! Another bonus is that it's a normal window in windows ie it can be embiggenned as desired.
Winboard ... also includes an engine you can shut off, and the engine isn't that strong anyway... but if used properly you don't even care about the engine. You can even use more powerful engines with Winboard, but that is what I hope is not being done.
13 Jun 06
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Originally posted by wormwoodGiven that in correspondence chess you are allowed an analysis board, can look up openings in books, have excessive time to think, you will find cc chess "masters" flop when they play a simple 2 hour game (where FIDE conditions do not allow those things allowed in CC chess).
some do, some don't. some play CC for fun, some to analyze thoroughly and to learn. in essence, CC is the search for the best possible play. how can that not be seeking to improve?
All things must be taken in moderation, what happens when you feast on too much starch in a supposedly balanced diet? If you can maintain for arguments purposes 2000 in CC, 2000 in FIDE slow chess and 2000 in blitz then you are not far off.
There is no point of 2000 CC, 1700 FIDE and 1500 blitz, one of the wheels on your car has become unstuck.
13 Jun 06
Originally posted by z00tI ask again, why is classical chess the measure up to which correspondence is compared?
Given that in correspondence chess you are allowed an analysis board, can look up openings in books, have excessive time to think, you will find cc chess "masters" flop when they play a simple 2 hour game (where FIDE conditions do not allow those things allowed in CC chess).
All things must be taken in moderation, what happens when you feast on too much star ...[text shortened]... point of 2000 CC, 1700 FIDE and 1500 blitz, one of the wheels on your car has become unstuck.
13 Jun 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZThat's not true. Initially, I was only confused as to why someone would need Winboard if not for engine use. I hinted that in my mind engine use would be probable if using Winboard. However, I did not directly accuse him of using an engine. Only after you showed your brilliance, did I make the hint less subtle. Furthermore, I know using Winboard is not equivalent to engine use, but that is clearly the most obvious function. Sure, you could try numerous lines, but to me it seems like too much work and thus less likely. Now, I understand, that some are far more dedicated to CC than I could have imagined.
Putrid.
Tommy has covered the accusations and he's right. You accused someone of cheating, reiterated the accusation and now you're doing it again. You also claimed that admitting to using Winboard was admitting to cheating. This shows a clear misunderstanding of what Winboard is. Classy from start to finish.
As for using the analyse board, it's crap. Simple as that.
In any case, you behaved like a 5 year old. What could have been said in fewer words nicely was said in more words in an insulting and belligerent matter. I hope in the future, you can become a decent person that people will want to be around. Until then, grow up.
13 Jun 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZInteresting as both a sincere and a rhetorical question. I suspect the reason is cultural and historical. Eg more conversation, excitement and spectacle is generated by OTB play, as tournaments don't take years to complete; most of the major developments of chess thought (the end of the romantic era, hypermodernism qualifying classical principles, the emergence of dynamics, etc) have come from OTB players . . . In this sense there is no absolute, principled reason why OTB chess should be the most exalted kind. Relatedly, I suspect that sometime into the future the dominant form of chess will be Freestyle.
I ask again, why is classical chess the measure up to which correspondence is compared?
13 Jun 06
Originally posted by exigentskyThis is a lie. You said that WinBoard was banned by RHP. The implication was clear: that WinBoard in your view was an engine for generating chess moves via a computer programme.
Initially, I was only confused as to why someone would need Winboard if not for engine use. I hinted that in my mind engine use would be probable if using Winboard. However, I did not directly accuse him of using an engine.
13 Jun 06
Originally posted by exigentskyI'm glad you are here to tell us what people most likely do based on how much work it is. Next time try actually reading the forums for a decent length of time before going off the deep end with cheat accusations.
That's not true. Initially, I was only confused as to why someone would need Winboard if not for engine use. I hinted that in my mind engine use would be probable if using Winboard. However, I did not directly accuse him of using an engine. Only after you showed your brilliance, did I make the hint less subtle. Furthermore, I know using Winboard is not e ...[text shortened]... future, you can become a decent person that people will want to be around. Until then, grow up.