23 Mar 10
Originally posted by UllrOh man you got issues...
So you think simple, common sense consideration for other players in the tournament is rubbish? Nobody here thinks this is a huge deal on the level of a Samurai Warrrior code, baby sacrifice, or world peace or anything like that. What it is is simply two players on RHP acting like dirtbags and not having the balls and common courtesy to apologize for it.
It's not that hard. Man up.
...and I'm gonna look up porn
...can I borrow your tissues?...
23 Mar 10
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Originally posted by peacedogHe has a point my highland friend, for when ones sense of justice is incensed by perceived skulduggery and underhanded, although not illegal ethics, then has one not a right to call attention to its ill usage. The essence of the matter after reading through the entire thread seems to me to be, 'in the spirit', of chess. If it violates the 'spirit of chess', as yet undefined although at this stage it seems to be akin to ungentlemanly conduct, then should it not be called out? Indeed, to denigrate it to 'its an internet chess site and means nothing', is rather contemptuous given that if it really meant nothing, then why acquiesce to the draw? Or we did it, tough luck and boo hoo on you, is that the 'spirit of chess'?
Oh man you got issues...
...and I'm gonna look up porn
...can I borrow your tissues?...
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI cant really see it myself.
He has a point my highland friend, for when ones sense of justice is incensed by perceived skulduggery and underhanded, although not illegal ethics, then has one not a right to call attention to its ill usage. The essence of the matter after reading through the entire thread seems to me to be, 'in the spirit', of chess. If it violates the 'spirit o ...[text shortened]... o the draw? Or we did it, tough luck and boo hoo on you, is that the 'spirit of chess'?
If the rules of chess allow a player to castle, why think its foul play when someone does it when its within the rules?
We all have the same rules to follow. Its the rules of RHP that are at fault, not these two members.
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23 Mar 10
Originally posted by peacedogOh wow! You think what the two of these did is equivalent to castling? LOL. Well at least you made me laugh.
I cant really see it myself.
If the rules of chess allow a player to castle, why think its foul play when someone does it when its within the rules?
We all have the same rules to follow. Its the rules of RHP that are at fault, not these two members.
Anyhow, I've said what I've had to say. I'm not going to beat it to death. I will say this one last thing. I hope these two clowns wind up in the final round of that tournament together and have to play against a 3rd player that beats them using a chess engine.
That would be sweet!
23 Mar 10
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Originally posted by peacedogmmm, one thinks his summer i may once again traverse the highlands, from whence my ancestors the MacGregors once took to the heather as a fox from the farmer, never the less, one takes one life into ones hands on that treacherous A9 road, if its not boy racers it crazy lorries or worst still, farmers!
I cant really see it myself.
If the rules of chess allow a player to castle, why think its foul play when someone does it when its within the rules?
We all have the same rules to follow. Its the rules of RHP that are at fault, not these two members.
Yes castling is not illegal, but the meat of the matter is not a mere technicality, in fact, its the use of a technicality which some feel, after reading the thread, desecrates the 'spirit of chess'. The question we should be asking is, does it put others at a disadvantage by the express will and collusion of the two parties, even though it does not violate the terms of agreement, if so, then it is unfair, although legal.
23 Mar 10
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIts the way it changes from 2 lanes to 4 and back again that claims the most lives. Not me and my ????!
mmm, one thinks his summer i may once again traverse the highlands, from whence my ancestors the MacGregors once took to the heather as a fox from the farmer, never the less, one takes one life into ones hands on that treacherous A9 road, if its not boy racers it crazy lorries or worst still, farmers!
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Yes castling is not illegal, but the meat of the matter is not a mere technicality, in fact, its the use of a technicality which some feel, after reading the thread, desecrates the 'spirit of chess'. The question we should be asking is, does it put others at a disadvantage by the express will and collusion of the two parties, even though it does not violate the terms of agreement, if so, then it is unfair, although legal.[/b]I guess we have to agree to disagree.
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo chess isn’t indeed war afterall, ye child of the noble MacGregor family?
mmm, one thinks his summer i may once again traverse the highlands, from whence my ancestors the MacGregors once took to the heather as a fox from the farmer, never the less, one takes one life into ones hands on that treacherous A9 road, if its not boy racers it crazy lorries or worst still, farmers!
Yes castling is not illegal, but the meat of t ...[text shortened]... n though it does not violate the terms of agreement, if so, then it is unfair, although legal.
And can’t ye see clearly them bandits fighting in the misty darkness against each other swords in hands, each of them eager to see all the other laying down dead? And can’t ye see the strongest two o’em pressing their backs to each other postponing their own duel for they hope this stratagem will turn the rest ones into an easier game?
Now what, should we start enjoying that awful SoCo wi tea oh the horror, or
Should we sweep on
With threshing oar
For our goal is just the western shore?
(So now we ‘ld better stop and rebuild all our ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all our losing)
😵
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasI join hands with this Gota😵
Ifs and buts... Perhaps...
Why change rules that works. I pointed out when the new rule doesn't work. But it would work the most of the times, because I don't think that people will use the loopholes very much. People are mostly moral.
So we say about using the rating systm too. Yet it is used by sandbaggers to gain advantages. This has produced ext ...[text shortened]... des, not to fiddle with changes of rules that works.
That's my opinion. No ifs, no buts.
23 Mar 10
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Originally posted by black beetleChess is war oh noble Athenian. Did not the Athenians more than once vanquish the tyrant because of the nobility of the heart. The Persians, scoffed, look at these Greeks, they shall go to war over a mere women, ah yes, but they knew not the meaning of honour, for even the dishonour of a single Greek lady could not be tolerated by men of such virtue! When Bruce rode out on his war steed to face Sir Henry de Bohun, unarmed save for a battle axe, did he petition him to make a truce? Perhaps we can come to terms until i dawn my armour? Chess is war oh great beastie of the Fraser race, realpolitik for sure, but honour is for the noble at heart 🙂
So chess isn’t indeed war afterall, ye child of the noble MacGregor family?
And can’t ye see clearly them bandits fighting in the misty darkness against each other swords in hands, each of them eager to see all the other laying down dead? And can’t ye see the strongest two o’em pressing their backs to each other postponing their own duel for they hop ...[text shortened]... and rebuild all our ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all our losing)
😵
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo truce when the Immortal Game begins -enjoy the fight and let the best prevail; I see yer point but still I see no reason why should I moan over even a 1 move draw in a RHP Duel although I hate to see it: since the duelers can well draw this way or that, methinks we can do actually nuffin😵
Chess is war oh noble Athenian. Did not the Athenians more than once vanquish the tyrant because of the nobility of the heart. The Persians, scoffed, look at these Greeks, they shall go to war over a mere women, ah yes, but they knew not the meaning of honour, for even the dishonour of a single Greek lady could not be tolerated by men of such virtu ...[text shortened]... great beastie of the Fraser race, realpolitik for sure, but honour is for the noble at heart 🙂
23 Mar 10
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Originally posted by black beetleI also see the converse for it was honour which contributed to Spasskys giving up his crown as world chess champion, had he played realpolitik, Fischer would have been made to forfeit, all is fair in love and war 🙂
No truce when the Immortal Game begins -enjoy the fight and let the best prevail; I see yer point but still I see no reason why should I moan over even a 1 move draw in a RHP Duel although I hate to see it: since the duelers can well draw this way or that, methinks we can do actually nuffin😵