23 May 06
Originally posted by 7ate9I generally agree with you.
the system affects everything,
the attitude we take towards each other in these forums becomes real on the board. if you want to change the type of chess we play, then i consider your best bet would be to look at changing the system in the forums. some good stuff goes on in the chess forum which lacks the games that go on in other areas as this is an enjoy ...[text shortened]... aven!
i don't get overly bothered with that type of stuff, as it will only rob my own game.
I think at this point, I was making an observation.
Anonymity breeds contempt.?
I can't change the way that every one else plays. All I can say is that for myself, I intend to act honorably and not allow the cloak of anonymity to change me into a spiteful, disrepectful, clod.
I love the game too much, to let a website change me.
23 May 06
Once during an OTB match I was losing and said "I resign" and my opponent merely chuckled and said "no way, i want mate!" and so we kept playing until he mated me...
Really, if you want to play chess you should play it... the game doesn't end when you go down a piece, it ends at mate or draw, so you should expect to play the game until its over... Whenever I resign it is because I am disgusted at my own play, not out of respect for my opponents.
23 May 06
Originally posted by 7ate9I'm not sure that I can. People are going to be people and do what they want.
you can change the way everyone plays, as we all input into the system.
Maybe some player's out there will take the Red Night pledge and vow to treat there opponents with dignity and respect, but there is no way that everyone will.
Re-read the thread, a number of posters were down right indignent with me for even suggesting that they act honorably.
My message to those players is this:
Anger and hate and spite are emotions that sap your strength and will definately effect your game.
Love your neighbor and yourself. You have to love other's to love yourself and you have to love yourself to play well. It takes confidence, if you're filled with self-loathing your not going to have that confidence.
If you disrespect opponents, how can you respect yourself?
Take the Red Night Pledge; you'll play better and we'll all have a better time playing the game we love.
23 May 06
Originally posted by Red NightI am of the opinion that there are people out there that only play chess just to humiliate their opponents... and those people will never be as good as someone who plays chess out of the love of the game... and one day those rotten apples will play the good ones and get humiliated themselves and because of their own egos they will cast themselves off the sport.
I'm not sure that I can. People are going to be people and do what they want.
Maybe some player's out there will take the Red Night pledge and vow to treat there opponents with dignity and respect, but there is no way that everyone will.
Re-read the thread, a number of posters were down right indignent with me for even suggesting that they act honor ...[text shortened]... ight Pledge; you'll play better and we'll all have a better time playing the game we love.
23 May 06
Originally posted by 7ate9Thanks.
i'm starting to like what your writing a bit more.[/b]
Anger is a powerful emotion. It will destroy you.
Love your game. It's the only game you have.
If your oponent plays beautifully and you don't admire the beauty, you are probably missing out on an opportunity to improve.
Play to win, but don't allow the fear of losing and hostility toward an opponent to blind you or you will lose.
23 May 06
I agree with some of your points Red. I've been surprised at some of the hostility in these forums.
I also think some of the posts in this thread have missed part of your point. I'm new to RHP and don't even have my first 10 games yet, but I'm already seeing exactly what you're talking about. Players moving at 5 - 10 moves a day, then changing to ONE move every day or so when the game starts going against them. It does get frustrating. I start to wonder if they're trying to see if I'll drop dead from old age so they get the win....lol...
23 May 06
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Originally posted by JimbobThanks Jimbob. It seems that I'm gaining some support as the thread grows.
I agree with some of your points Red. I've been surprised at some of the hostility in these forums.
I also think some of the posts in this thread have missed part of your point. I'm new to RHP and don't even have my first 10 games yet, but I'm already seeing exactly what you're talking about. Players moving at 5 - 10 moves a day, then changing to ONE move ...[text shortened]... der if they're trying to see if I'll drop dead from old age so they get the win....lol...
I started out asking a basic question: when should you resign? And I think that the answer that I've formulated in my head as this thread has grown is that you should resign when you would expect the other person to resign if you were playing an OTB game.
But, I know exactly what you mean, a lot of people speed up their play when they think they're winning and slow the play down when they think they are losing.
Maybe they are hoping to win by a time default or that you'll quit the site. Neither are great ways to win, if they work.
23 May 06
Originally posted by Red NightI don't think it's a malicious and intentional thing. It's just a psychological phenomenon; people don't like to focus on games where they're losing. It's not as fun. You can see something similar in the MD2 and NE games (non chess games that some of us on RHP are playing; historical play by e-mail diplomacy/war games). Rob only updates the map where he's winning.
Thanks Jimbob. It seems that I'm gaining some support as the thread grows.
I started out asking a basic question: when should you resign? And I think that the answer that I've formulated in my head as this thread has grown is that you should resign when you would expect the other person to resign if you were playing an OTB game.
But, I know exactly ...[text shortened]... y a time default or that you'll quit the site. Neither are great ways to win, if they work.
This is what naturally happens when the opponent is unsure. He takes more time to play. This is where time controls come in. Those people who are bitching need to stop playing with such generous time controls. That and/or move to a site where the games aren't intended to be played one move per 2-3 days...
23 May 06
Originally posted by Jimbobopening moves are usually blitzed, when the game falls out of book or reach a critical move, it'll more often than not slow down considerably. it would be stupid to move fast when in trouble.
I also think some of the posts in this thread have missed part of your point. I'm new to RHP and don't even have my first 10 games yet, but I'm already seeing exactly what you're talking about. Players moving at 5 - 10 moves a day, then changing to ONE move every day or so when the game starts going against them. It does get frustrating. I start to wonder if they're trying to see if I'll drop dead from old age so they get the win....lol...
if you're not happy with the time controls you've agreed when starting the game, it's your problem, not your opponent's. next time choose faster time controls.
I'll make a pledge of my own just for the fun of it: I pledge to take all the time I see fit to find the best move I can, resign if and when I feel like it, and not give fleeting thought to what my paranoid opponent might think my reasons were. I especially pledge to not make hasty moves, and aim to evaluate positions thoroughly, within the time granted by the chosen time controls.
say no to blitz!