13 Apr 12
Originally posted by deennyThats not the point. The point is when you know you're losing in a game you should not claim a draw. A true draw to me is either when both parties agree to it or when a king is unable to move without being in check position.
Where did you have a check in this game that you resigned
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by RedKnight12I challenge you. See if you can force a draw this way against me.
Thats not the point. The point is when you know you're losing in a game you should not claim a draw. A true draw to me is either when both parties agree to it or when a king is unable to move without being in check position.
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by RedKnight12Yeah, about that, you need your sarcasm meter checked, along with your chess savvy.
Thanks cowboy, Thats what I would do as well. In fact I did that when I played him 2 games before this one. I knew I had almost no chance of winning, I just resigned.
And I agree michael, if only I had known this, I could have turned most of my losses to draws not just on RHP (I'm new here) but since I first began playing years ago!
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by RedKnight12The point is that the player checking you is not losing the game. He has a forced draw.
Thats not the point. The point is when you know you're losing in a game you should not claim a draw. A true draw to me is either when both parties agree to it or when a king is unable to move without being in check position.
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by deennyAnd thats ok? jeez! all these years I played and I could have got draws instead of losses! just one last question, is this international rule or just RHP?
The point is that the player checking you is not losing the game. He has a forced draw.
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13 Apr 12
Originally posted by sonhouseYep, this is the point RHP should be improved. The same is in the tool Analyze board, you can ignore check and there is no automatic "checkmate!" etc.
So at RHP there is no automatic draw? It has to be requested, a draw claim? It must be like that ---
Now I wonder, if this is also can happen: King versus King, and one of them refuses to accept a draw?!
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13 Apr 12
Originally posted by vandervelde50-move draw rule, or 3fold repetition can both force a draw in that case
Yep, this is the point RHP should be improved. The same is in the tool Analyze board, you can ignore check and there is no automatic "checkmate!" etc.
Now I wonder, if this is also can happen: King versus King, and one of them refuses to accept a draw?!
13 Apr 12
Game 1120321
Two lone Kings dance a tango around the board for 40+ moves before agreeing a draw.
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by greenpawn34that game must have a story!
Game 1120321
Two lone Kings dance a tango around the board for 40+ moves before agreeing a draw.
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by RedKnight12You have to understand that this is not as easy as you seem to think. Have a look at the game which you resigned and see if you can find the checks which get you the draw. They are not there. You have to work at getting the position to get the draw and as someone has said, it is not easy. You were caught because you were not protecting yourself against the threat. If you cannot force a checkmate you cannot claim to be winning the game
And thats ok? jeez! all these years I played and I could have got draws instead of losses! just one last question, is this international rule or just RHP?
13 Apr 12
Originally posted by vanderveldeThe rules of chess state that you must claim a draw for threefold/50 move. The only automatic draw is a stalemate. So RHP does it right.
Yep, this is the point RHP should be improved. The same is in the tool Analyze board, you can ignore check and there is no automatic "checkmate!" etc.
Now I wonder, if this is also can happen: King versus King, and one of them refuses to accept a draw?!
Though the lone king thing should be made auto on this site, in my view.
13 Apr 12
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Originally posted by vanderveldeDraws by repetion have to be claimed. In your example of king v king it only needs one of the players to claim the draw. If both continue to play the game, they can indeed do so. You seem to misunderstand what the analyze board is for. It is the same as having a real board in front of you that you can move around on. It is not its function to show you legal moves, whether you in check, etc
Yep, this is the point RHP should be improved. The same is in the tool Analyze board, you can ignore check and there is no automatic "checkmate!" etc.
Now I wonder, if this is also can happen: King versus King, and one of them refuses to accept a draw?!
Sorry hedonist, our paths crossed
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Originally posted by deennyNo really, I don't seem to misunderstand anything here.
Draws by repetion have to be claimed. In your example of king v king it only needs one of the players to claim the draw. If both continue to play the game, they can indeed do so. You seem to misunderstand what the analyze board is for. It is the same as having a real board in front of you that you can move around on. It is not its function to show you legal moves, whether you in check, etc
I can name several chess sites which have this tool analyze board, and there is an automatic checkmate, and when checked you cannot move anything else except to protect the King (or else is checkmate). And there is also automatic draw after 3 repetitions on this sites.
Oh please, don't tell me "Go to these sites", I only agreed with sonhouse's rethorical question here, I don't pose any request to the site's administrators.
Thanks for having explained to me what analyze board is, imagine that, I actually expected from that board a fresh horoscope and a glass of orange juice every morning..
Really ...