27 Nov 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZSeriously Xanthos can you explain to me why hes complaining I mean he already lost twice, 0-2 for the tournament, did he really think he had a chance?
Shame, with two losses you may have had the chance to give a pity draw to some crippled chap in the third round.
27 Nov 06
Originally posted by HomerJSimpsonWhy ask Xanthos? He doesn't know anything about USCF tournaments... nor pride for that matter.
Seriously Xanthos can you explain to me why hes complaining I mean he already lost twice, 0-2 for the tournament, did he really think he had a chance?
I was complaing about the re-entry policy and the resulting pairings.
27 Nov 06
Originally posted by Diet CokeIf you gotta fork $100 for a tournament, you better expect to have some chance of winning.
You enter tournaments to win?
I enter to play chess.
Maybe that's why I don't win.
I pay $20-25 for tournaments with prizes of $100 and I only do that if I think I have some shot of winning.
Round robins are the best though. They pair you up with people similar to your strength and it's way better. At least you have a chance in each game.
27 Nov 06
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhy? The tournament director made a slipup in the pairings. It's not his fault the reentry rules exist.
You should probably complain to the USCF and submit the tournament director's name.
And arrakis, surely you paid your money to enter a tournament that you had almost zero chance of winning (assuming you knew GMs were entering) because you wanted the experience of playing good players? And then you play (very) good players and complain that you aren't winning against them.
27 Nov 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZThe 10,000 prize fund is divided like this:
Why? The tournament director made a slipup in the pairings. It's not his fault the reentry rules exist.
And arrakis, surely you paid your money to enter a tournament that you had almost zero chance of winning (assuming you knew GMs were entering) because you wanted the experience of playing good players? And then you play (very) good players and complain that you aren't winning against them.
Open Section $4,975
1st - $900
2nd - $500
3rd - $400
1st Expert - $350
2nd Expert - $250
1st A - $350
2nd A - $250
and so on. So yeah, you play a few strong players, but so do the people you are competing against in your class. My rating is Class A so I was competing against other Class A players who had much easier pairings.
27 Nov 06
Originally posted by arrakis$100 fee and the prizes are like that. How many Class A player would you say they were?
The 10,000 prize fund is divided like this:
Open Section $4,975
1st - $900
2nd - $500
3rd - $400
1st Expert - $350
2nd Expert - $250
1st A - $350
2nd A - $250
and so on. So yeah, you play a few strong players, but so do the people you are competing against in your class. My rating is Class A so I was competing against other Class A players who had much easier pairings.
I don't know about you but I think that is a bad investment. Unless if you were there just for the chess. The it's "A" okay.
27 Nov 06
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Originally posted by zebanoPerhaps my message was misleading. After playing a Master and Grandmaster, I took two byes for the rest of the day (my brain felt fried). Then Sunday I went down to play the two remaining games, but after drawing the current Michigan Chess editor (Class A) I would've had to wait 3 more hours to play the final game, so I withdrew.
My sympathies. I don't understand why you would withdraw though, play more chess and have some fun.
27 Nov 06
Well, I'm going to focus strictly on the rebuy rule here - I've fallen victim to it in poker before.
TBH, I have a hard time giving the rule any credence at all - it doesn't make sense, ESPECIALLY in a chess tournament. I mean, they honestly allow people to convert loses into draws? Can you imagine if this happened at top-level chess!? On the other hand, from an economic view it makes plenty of sense, and unfortunately this is how the world runs, all you can do is complain and hope somebody listens. USCF is a generally bad organization as far as money hounding goes though, so it doesn't really shock me. It's obviously a flawed rule though.