Is there a way to win this?

Superman

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17 Aug 06

Superman

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17 Aug 06

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Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

I say its a draw.

EdIT: my mistake. reverse position, black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

tomtom232

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

I say its a draw.

yes it is a draw all you have to do is stay in front of the pawn.

ThudanBlunder

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17 Aug 06

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Originally posted by Superman
Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

I say its a draw.

I don't see how it is a draw as you describe it.

Superman

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
I don't see how it is a draw as you describe it.

I cant see how its not a draw. do you know a way to win as black?

ThudanBlunder

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
I cant see how its not a draw. do you know a way to win as black?

Well, the Black pawn is on e3, is moving down the board, and his king is in front of it, right? On e2?
So how can White stop the pawn from queening?

TEXASmade

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17 Aug 06

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Originally posted by Superman
Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

I say its a draw.

the game is a win for black

Superman

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
Well, the Black pawn is on e3, is moving down the board, and his king is in front of it, right? On e2?
So how can White stop the pawn from queening?

ok, I see, my mistake::

its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

White to move.

TEXASmade

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17 Aug 06

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1. Kf4(or Kd4) Kd2(or Kf2)
2. Kf3(or Kd3) then black just pushes the pawn

ohh, nevermind, you had the wrong position, that one IS drawn

TEXASmade

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17 Aug 06

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Originally posted by Superman
ok, I see, my mistake::

its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

White to move.

yes, its drawn

1. Ke4 Kd6
2. Kd4(taking the opposition, if black moves his king to f6 then you oppose there) e5+
2. Ke4 Ke6...
then just repeat this pattern over and over until the white king is on e1...

ThudanBlunder

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
ok, I see, my mistake::

its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

White to move.

Yes, a dead draw.
Look up the meaning of 'opposition'.

Superman

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17 Aug 06

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Originally posted by TEXASmade
1. Kf4(or Kd4) Kd2(or Kf2)
2. Kf3(or Kd3) then black just pushes the pawn

What if white moves 1. Ke4
then after 1. ...... Kf6
2. Kf4

or 1...... Kd6
2. Kd4

OK is a draw.

do you have another position of K Vs K&P where it could be dificult to know?

ThudanBlunder

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
What if white moves 1. Ke4
then after 1. ...... Kf6
2. Kf4

or 1...... Kd6
2. Kd4

See my last post. 😀

TEXASmade

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
What if white moves 1. Ke4
then after 1. ...... Kf6
2. Kf4

or 1...... Kd6
2. Kd4

i was talking about the first position you gave, the one you said was incorrect..

TEXASmade

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
Yes, a dead draw.
Look up the meaning of 'opposition'.

lol, yep, i described it using opposition as well. my new tutor taught me the meaning and it made many endgames soo much clearer. it's good to know

buffalobill

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17 Aug 06

Originally posted by Superman
Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

I say its a draw.

EdIT: my mistake. reverse position, black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

Start a new game, go to advanced options and set up the board. Copy the FEN and paste into a new message with the insert board from FEN option. Don't forget to cancel the game you started, otherwise you leave an open challenge. Simple, really.