03 Feb 08
Originally posted by droflaceNo, you can claim a 3 move repetition draw on the site - but you have to physically click the button - it won't do it automatically. RHP understands the rules of the game.
The laws of chess define it as a draw--if the same position occurs three times, with the same player to move, then it is a draw.
I would of thought that either play should be able to claim the draw without the other players consent. Is this a bug in the site (related to the recent outage), or has the feature never been available here?
03 Feb 08
Originally posted by TippedKingI have to admit to having taken a couple of wins here from my opponents not having seen a perpetual check opportunity. If it's your only chance, take it!
The best way to bring out the jerk comments is to start complaining about a game situation where your opponent is playing by the rules, completely fair, but then you start lobbying to have the chess rules changed to suit your specific situation.
This may come as a shock to you, but everyone here plays by the same rules. You will find they have been we ...[text shortened]... happens all the time. Cudos to your opponent for seizing the opportunity and salvaging a draw.
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03 Feb 08
Originally posted by pimpsandwichLook the advice above is a jerk comment. I put myself in a bad situation and wanted feedback on the proper etiquette for this. I would think moving back and forth in the same two spots is bad etiquette I'm wrong. its just how the game is played.
Accept the draw, stop whining, and learn from your errors.
But the responses above... Get off your high horses (knights) you guys. If someone wants advice, you don't act like some superior GRAND MASTER. That is where the JERK comment comes in.
Now i'm looking for a why to lock or delete this pointless thread. Any jerk comments on how to accomplish this?
How about "Don't start posting here in the first place." Oh Great! Looks like this is the last one!
03 Feb 08
Originally posted by THRILLHOHere we have thrillho, who seems to be new to chess, asking a perfectly valid question, and a lot of people jump down his throat for it.
Hello my opponent in this game, 4562788, keeps moving back and forth putting me in check in the same two positions. I have the advantage on the board with an additional piece (bishop). I would be able to checkmate him and finish the game, but he won't stop moving back and forth with the check. He offered me a draw, but I didn't take it. I think he shou ...[text shortened]... f in that position. I've had it happen to me hundreds of times."
This seems wrong to me.
It is not his fault that he didn't know the draw by repitition rule--and good on him for asking and trying to learn something about the game. A bit of constructive help might have been good, rather than having a go at him.
Now that he knows he the rule I am sure he will apply it to his future games and become a better player--i never once heard him ask to change the rules. I thought the goal of a forum like this would be to try and educate more people about the rules and strategies of chess, not to make them feel stupid for not already knowing it all.
03 Feb 08
Originally posted by THRILLHOI have the advantage on the board with an additional piece (bishop).
Hello my opponent in this game, 4562788, keeps moving back and forth putting me in check in the same two positions. I have the advantage on the board with an additional piece (bishop). I would be able to checkmate him and finish the game, but he won't stop moving back and forth with the check. He offered me a draw, but I didn't take it. I think he shou ...[text shortened]... f in that position. I've had it happen to me hundreds of times."
This seems wrong to me.
That advantage is nullified by the fact that your King is not safe.
I would be able to checkmate him and finish the game, but he won't stop moving back and forth with the check.
Of course. Why should he deliberately play a losing move when he has a legal alternative that saves the game?
He offered me a draw, but I didn't take it. I think he should resign and told him so. What should I do? It seems like proper chess etiquette for him to resign.
Draw by repetition of position is a legal, as well as acceptable, way of ending a chess game. Perpetual check is one way of attaining such a draw. It is not considered unsportsmanlike.
Update: He posted this in my response to telling him he should resign: "thats what a stalemate is. I know its frusrating but its your job not to put yourself in that position. I've had it happen to me hundreds of times."
Well, he did not use the right word [it's not a stalemate - a stalemate is when you're not in check, but have no legal move], but he is correct that it is your responsibility to defend against the perpetual check if you wish to avoid it.
03 Feb 08
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Originally posted by LukerikEither the button is not there, or Thrillho's opponent doesn't know about it, because otherwise he would not have tried to offer a draw and then keep playing when it was declined
No, you can claim a 3 move repetition draw on the site - but you have to physically click the button - it won't do it automatically. RHP understands the rules of the game.
Edit: I just checked, and the button is there, so i guess your opponent shoudl just use that to claim his draw thrillho
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03 Feb 08
Originally posted by droflaceThanks. Mankind can by humble.
Here we have thrillho, who seems to be new to chess, asking a perfectly valid question, and a lot of people jump down his throat for it.
It is not his fault that he didn't know the draw by repitition rule--and good on him for asking and trying to learn something about the game. A bit of constructive help might have been good, rather than having a go at h ...[text shortened]... the rules and strategies of chess, not to make them feel stupid for not already knowing it all.
03 Feb 08
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Originally posted by pimpsandwichWhen the above comment is deemed offensive it makes me long for bygone days before feminism lead to the pussification of American men. Is thrillo's skin so thin that this comment was made. I consider it proper advice and honest. When I bungle a game (which is probably one out of four) I don't go whining about my opponent. Get real.
Accept the draw, stop whining, and learn from your errors.
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03 Feb 08
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Originally posted by pimpsandwichPimp: I was not "whining" as you put it. I was asking if that was proper etiquette in chess. Just a simple question, which was aswered by many others with clear rule descriptions.
When the above comment is deemed offensive it makes me long for bygone days before feminism lead to the pussification of American men. Is thrillo's skin so thin that this comment was made. I consider it proper advice and honest. When I bungle a game (which is probably one out of four) I don't go whining about my opponent. Get real.
Now, what does any of that have to do with feminism and pussification, Pimp? Or, did you just want to add that you are "Manly" and "Don't take no guff from no dame." I like to end my text by simply grunting really load so all the other "Playas" know I'm around.
"Ruff, Grunt, Snort, Roar!!!"
03 Feb 08
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I 'read' your comments as whining, only you know if that is true or not. My comment was direct, I'm just surprised that you, or anyone would take offense to my comments.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=79255
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=81093
03 Feb 08
Originally posted by pimpsandwichhe did seem to be whining.
I 'read' your comments as whining, only you know if that is true or not. My comment was direct, I'm just surprised that you, or anyone would take offense to my comments.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=79255
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=81093
not everyone can handle the drill sargeant response.
03 Feb 08
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Originally posted by pimpsandwichThrillho, I too apologize on behalf of pimpsandwich and the like, who are obviously too immature either to realize you were simply asking a legitimate question to which you did not know the answer or to answer your question simply and without condescension.
Accept the draw, stop whining, and learn from your errors.
As a future suggestion, you may choose to post in the "Help" Forum.
03 Feb 08
Originally posted by THRILLHOThe game is a draw by perpetual check which I see has now been agreed.
Hello my opponent in this game, 4562788, keeps moving back and forth putting me in check in the same two positions. I have the advantage on the board with an additional piece (bishop). I would be able to checkmate him and finish the game, but he won't stop moving back and forth with the check. He offered me a draw, but I didn't take it. I think he shou ...[text shortened]... f in that position. I've had it happen to me hundreds of times."
This seems wrong to me.
Why should he play an inferior move? If you don't want to repeat you always have the choice of playing Bg1.