22 Feb 06
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Originally posted by sjegHere is a recent game where I mated with a rook. It isn't hard once you know how to do it.
The Queen even I can do. I'd be happy to try with two Bishops. One Knight and one Bishop sounds a nightmare.
But mate with one rook is possible, but tricky?
EDIT: Basically, the one Rook ++ is the most difficult? When I learnt from a tiny paper-back book and a plastic chess set, I read that a valuation of the pieces can be set very basically at:
1 poin ...[text shortened]... B;
5 for R;
10 for Q.
So by that, rook is the most bloody difficult. Is that about right?
Game 1817989
EDIT: Found a better example which shows how to push the king to the edge of the board.
Game 1594528
22 Feb 06
Originally posted by sjegNine for a queen, nine.
The Queen even I can do. I'd be happy to try with two Bishops. One Knight and one Bishop sounds a nightmare.
But mate with one rook is possible, but tricky?
EDIT: Basically, the one Rook ++ is the most difficult? When I learnt from a tiny paper-back book and a plastic chess set, I read that a valuation of the pieces can be set very basically at:
1 poin ...[text shortened]... B;
5 for R;
10 for Q.
So by that, rook is the most bloody difficult. Is that about right?
22 Feb 06
Originally posted by sjegI knew you could do it, but i made a bit of a mess of it. It was the first time i've ever been in that situation so i've learn from my error.
What's the minimum you can ++ with on a board with only another king against you?
e.g. your King plus one Rook, versus another King- is it possible to mate, or only draw?
Game 1681285
22 Feb 06
Originally posted by millermanyou did not really bad, but on move 78 you simply missed mate by Ra7, it won't get more easy then that XD
I knew you could do it, but i made a bit of a mess of it. It was the first time i've ever been in that situation so i've learn from my error.
Game 1681285
23 Feb 06
Originally posted by lauseyWoo hoo- I see the technique you were all trying to explain to me now. Thanks to all of you. It's pretty simple. I don't know why, but when first puzzled, I thought of pinning using the rook beside the king, but no mate there.
Here is a recent game where I mated with a rook. It isn't hard once you know how to do it.
Game 1817989
EDIT: Found a better example which shows how to push the king to the edge of the board.
Game 1594528
Then a lightbuld- trap the king in the corner. That was when i thought I had got it. Then i read your posts, mystified- but that second game lausey posted shows the technique clearly. Thanks again.
sjeg
23 Feb 06
Originally posted by sjegIndeed. That second example is worth 1,000 words.
Woo hoo- I see the technique you were all trying to explain to me now. Thanks to all of you. It's pretty simple. I don't know why, but when first puzzled, I thought of pinning using the rook beside the king, but no mate there.
Then a lightbuld- trap the king in the corner. That was when i thought I had got it. Then i read your posts, mystified- but that second game lausey posted shows the technique clearly. Thanks again.
sjeg
Particularly if those words are mine.
23 Feb 06
Originally posted by sjegIn fact, to show how strong the Rook actually is, with K & R v K it is possible to force mate on any particular edge square that is desig-nated. Not of any practical use in play, but is an amusing and not very difficult puzzle.
What's the minimum you can ++ with on a board with only another king against you?
e.g. your King plus one Rook, versus another King- is it possible to mate, or only draw?
24 Feb 06
Originally posted by KirwanYes,K+2n cannot force mate, although if the weaker side makes a mistake mate is possible. Some K+2n v K+P can be won
I'm not very good at this I'm afraid.
I think K + 2N v K is a draw. If the defending side has a pawn it can be won but not in 50 moves. I think FIDE changed the law in that position so you have to mate in 100 moves instead. Then again I could have dreamt all that.
Sorry again.