04 Dec 07
Originally posted by masscatA rare moment of modesty for Bobby.
In 1964 Booby Fischer listed his top 10 in Chess Life:
Morphy
Staunton
Steinitz
Tarrasch
Chigorin
Alekhine
Capablanca
Spassky
Tahl
Reshevsky
But that was in 1964. Maybe his opinion changed later. I don’t know. Does his opinion count?
He was a big Morphy fan.
Tarrasch should be on my list somewhere.
Chigorin is a good name
He was also a Reshevsky fan, but I don't think he belongs there.
He despised Botvinnik and was somewhat in awe of Tal.
05 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightI dont know why Morphy is on all the lists, when he was playing, he never played anyone who was really good, so there is no way to tell just how good he was.
A rare moment of modesty for Bobby.
He was a big Morphy fan.
Tarrasch should be on my list somewhere.
Chigorin is a good name
He was also a Reshevsky fan, but I don't think he belongs there.
He despised Botvinnik and was somewhat in awe of Tal.
05 Dec 07
Originally posted by clandarkfireThe fact that he was that good without being able to tap the vast amount of theory and technology we have today...Well he would be damn near unbeatable if he was alive today.
I dont know why Morphy is on all the lists, when he was playing, he never played anyone who was really good, so there is no way to tell just how good he was.
05 Dec 07
Originally posted by Fat LadySome best known examples:
Do you mean Euwe's games? Which ones do you find amazing?
[Event "Zandvoort-Wch"]
[Site "Zandvoort-Wch"]
[Date "1935.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "26"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Max Euwe"]
[Black "Alexander Alekhine"]
[ECO "A90"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "93"]
1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 Be7 5. Bg2 Nf6 6. Nc3 O-O
7. Nf3 Ne4 8. O-O b6 9. Qc2 Bb7 10. Ne5 Nxc3 11. Bxc3 Bxg2
12. Kxg2 Qc8 13. d5 d6 14. Nd3 e5 15. Kh1 c6 16. Qb3 Kh8
17. f4 e4 18. Nb4 c5 19. Nc2 Nd7 20. Ne3 Bf6 21. Nxf5 Bxc3
22. Nxd6 Qb8 23. Nxe4 Bf6 24. Nd2 g5 25. e4 gxf4 26. gxf4 Bd4
27. e5 Qe8 28. e6 Rg8 29. Nf3 Qg6 30. Rg1 Bxg1 31. Rxg1 Qf6
32. Ng5 Rg7 33. exd7 Rxd7 34. Qe3 Re7 35. Ne6 Rf8 36. Qe5 Qxe5
37. fxe5 Rf5 38. Re1 h6 39. Nd8 Rf2 40. e6 Rd2 41. Nc6 Re8
42. e7 b5 43. Nd8 Kg7 44. Nb7 Kf6 45. Re6+ Kg5 46. Nd6 Rxe7
47. Ne4+ 1-0
[Event "Zurich"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "1953.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "02"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Efim Geller"]
[Black "Max Euwe"]
[ECO "E26"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "52"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 b6
7. Bd3 Bb7 8. f3 Nc6 9. Ne2 O-O 10. O-O Na5 11. e4 Ne8 12. Ng3
cxd4 13. cxd4 Rc8 14. f4 Nxc4 15. f5 f6 16. Rf4 b5 17. Rh4 Qb6
18. e5 Nxe5 19. fxe6 Nxd3 20. Qxd3 Qxe6 21. Qxh7+ Kf7 22. Bh6
Rh8 23. Qxh8 Rc2 24. Rc1 Rxg2+ 25. Kf1 Qb3 26. Ke1 Qf3 0-1
[Event "SWZ ct"]
[Site "SWZ ct"]
[Date "1953.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Max Euwe"]
[Black "Miguel Najdorf"]
[ECO "E60"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "73"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 c5 6. d5 e5
7. Bg5 h6 8. Bxf6 Qxf6 9. d6 Nc6 10. e3 b6 11. Bd5 Kh8 12. Ne4
Qd8 13. h4 f5 14. Ng5 Bb7 15. g4 e4 16. Ne2 Bxb2 17. Nf4 Qf6
18. gxf5 Bxa1 19. Nxg6+ Kg7 20. Nxe4 Bc3+ 21. Kf1 Qxf5 22. Nf4
Kh8 23. Nxc3 Rae8 24. Nce2 Rg8 25. h5 Rg5 26. Ng3 Rxg3
27. fxg3 Rxe3 28. Kf2 Re8 29. Re1 Rxe1 30. Qxe1 Kg7 31. Qe8
Qc2+ 32. Kg1 Qd1+ 33. Kh2 Qc2+ 34. Ng2 Qf5 35. Qg8+ Kf6
36. Qh8+ Kg5 37. Qg7+ 1-0
05 Dec 07
of course euwe should be on, I've read somewhere that many players of his time, including capablanca and alekhine believed he was the most accurate calculater in the world. He was also one of the first great opening specialists.
Glad someone put Keres on and symslov and petrosian too.
I'd also like to shout out for rubinstein.
06 Dec 07
1 edit
Originally posted by hoochicoochimanI will be serious for a minute here. (for a change)
1. fischer
1. kasparov
gotta be the two best players, surely.
How in the hell can you believe someone who quit as his peak is better than Kasparov? He had a higher elo, plus he was champion for far longer. He didnt run like a coward unlike fischer.
Heck I consider Karpov better than Fischer.