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Whats you IQ and how important is it to chess?

Whats you IQ and how important is it to chess?

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Intelligence is nothing without wisdom. One could have an IQ of 300 but if you are working on the wrong problem you will never get the answer you want. Intelligence doesn't mean anything without knowing how to apply it.

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Originally posted by zakkwylder
Yes. You can't recognize how to formulate a proper sentence. You can't count. And I quote you,
wohoo i m 16 recs
Total recs : 17

Total disregard for counting and grammar. You have to be able to recognize these things in your head before you can on paper(figuratively speaking). You can't do them on paper(figuratively speaking), so obviously someth ...[text shortened]... is a lack of understanding on such basic subjects, you're doomed to understand any far greater.
Well don't forget his native language is Finnish, even if your IQ is
200 doesn't mean you will be perfect in everything. Give it a brake.
My IQ is only 152, sucks actually considering I thought for a long time
I actually WAS god....But at least its a grown-up test not one I took
when I was 6 like our lady of the IQ, Marylyn Vos Savat.
She supposedly cranked out a 236 but recent tests have her
"only" at about 186. Poor thing.
I would like to take the extremes like that and give them chess
lessons if you could indeed talk them into it and see how far they
could climb. My instincts tell me if they haven't had training when
they were young, they wouldn't get very far. Like Clinton or
Stormin Norman, both in the 180's. Probably Norman already knows
since he is a military man. I heard of one study that correlated chess
ability and IQ but only up to about 125. A later study with fast pet
scan which shows blood flow to parts of the brain being activated by
thinking patterns revealed grandmasters use a lot more of the
long term memory portion of the brain, forget the exact details, but
duffers like us us mostly short term memory areas and thus have
to relearn to play from scratch more or less. GM's have patterns
long term memorized that lets them make decisions without having
to actually use up brainpower thinking about positions since they
have thousands or hundreds of thousands of key positions committed
to memory, long term memory. That seems to be the long and short
of it. Dr. Max Euwe was involved in some early studies along this line.
I think in the 1960's, but of course without modern
instrumentation. Here is a link about brain power, stated much
better than I ever could. Megasociety notes.
http://www.megasociety.net/noesis/41/brains.html
Here is something else for you HiQ types to chew on:
http://www.megasociety.net/noesis/44/newcomb.html

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My IQ is actually below average, tested and verified as such, yet I score 1700 plus on this site. Just think what my rating would be if i was smart.

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Originally posted by buddy2
My IQ is actually below average, tested and verified as such, yet I score 1700 plus on this site. Just think what my rating would be if i was smart.
as evidence, look at this game: Game 1273132
He is strong. It goes to show you the brain is a collection of skills,
like musical skills and chess skills may share networks in the brain.
So one gist is if for instance, you are a musician and a chess player,
musical practice, training,rehearals, etc., may help your chess
ability. Not trying to tout playing music with the specific goal of
impoving your chess game, just an illustration.

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yeah. after all IQs doesnt matter at all (until you are super-GM, i guess). only hard work and dedication are needed to achieve strong understanding of chess.

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Originally posted by Wildfire
Well, obviously a person with an I.Q. of 60 or below doesn't have the mental capacity to play a game like chess, but Bowmann somehow manages.
Oh my God! I hope Bowmann dont see this one.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
then what? i bet you still understood what I was saying. or did you?
Did he what? 😕

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Originally posted by buddy2
I'm tired of all this prejudice against stupid people. Surely, they are the most maligned people on earth. Being smarter is like being taller. Sure, there are midgets, but they are people like everybody else (only shorter).
** Silly Post Award **

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Originally posted by Wildfire
Well, obviously a person with an I.Q. of 60 or below doesn't have the mental capacity to play a game like chess, but Bowmann somehow manages.
It isn't nice to talk of my opponents like this.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
[b]** Silly Post Award **[/b]
i thought you would agree with him... after all, he is praising people like you...

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About IQ, since we do have the assumption of a Gaussian distribution We can reliably only estimate the 1st to the 99th percentile. Such IQ> 150 and <50 are simply meaningless.
Then we do have a test testing several different skills, some of which are culture related, thus people with a better eductauion score higher (on average).

Mensa, of which I happen to be a member, a fact that doesn't make me a great chess player, accepts people in the upper 2% whcih is normally defined as IQ 130. The test is taken under controlled conditions.

Chess playing includes a lot of skills, such as analytical thinking, memorizing, carefulness, ...

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My opponent's IQ generally determines the outcome of my chess games. It depends if he's smart enough to catch my blunders.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
And I'm a Russian spaceperson.

Claims mean nothing without evidence.

Anyway Mensa take the top 2% of the population which with a standard deviation of 15 (the most common used, although 16 and 24 are also used, truely making IQ useless as two different tests cannot be compared) means anything >131 gives entry.

PS. 156 puts you in the 99.990549th percentile.
Well...156 puts hi in the top 99.990549th percentile IF THE TESTS USED BY MENSA HAD A STANDARD DEVAITION OF 15...however, they do not, they have a standard deviation of 24 (which means that an IQ of 148 put you in the top 2%.)

So, therefore, an IQ of 156 ON THE MENSA TESTS means he is in the top 1% (of thereabouts, but certainly not in the 99.990549th)

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I say this with complete jest and lightheartedness, sp please do not jump all over me but, did anyone else notice that only 4 or five people actually addressed the original question. Now this makes me wonder about all these geniuses here. If we all all so smart, how come we can't answer the actual question being addressed? Please feel free to PM me about this as I have many philosophical ideas about this running around the question and not answering what is being asked. But for this forum, I mean it only for us all to look at it and laugh, because if you cannot laugh at yourself sometimes, how can we survive...afterall..We can't hug our children with nuclear arms

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Originally posted by irishhebrew82
I say this with complete jest and lightheartedness, sp please do not jump all over me but, did anyone else notice that only 4 or five people actually addressed the original question. Now this makes me wonder about all these geniuses here. If we all all so smart, how come we can't answer the actual question being addressed? Please feel free to PM m ...[text shortened]... yourself sometimes, how can we survive...afterall..We can't hug our children with nuclear arms
Radioactive mutation could mean we could hug our children with all eight arms...

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