Originally posted by mtthwhey, mtthw
Here's how I did it (for the 4 corner case).
The key thing to note is that, due to symmetry, if they start off as a square they are always a square. This means:
- the velocity towards the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
- the velocity perpendicular to a line drawn from the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
Solving the motion towards the centre is easy. ...[text shortened]... noticed while writing this: it should have been:
theta = -cot(PI/N).ln[1 - kt.sin(PI/N)/a]
I hate to be a pain,but can you explain the following statments in more depth
- the velocity towards the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
- the velocity perpendicular to a line drawn from the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
I'm having trouble coming coming to these conclusions on my own...
thanks
Eric
Originally posted by joe shmoI can try.
hey, mtthw
I hate to be a pain,but can you explain the following statments in more depth
- the velocity towards the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
- the velocity perpendicular to a line drawn from the centre is a constant k/sqrt(2)
I'm having trouble coming coming to these conclusions on my own...
thanks
Eric
Imagine an initial situation like this: ants are at: A (a, 0), B (0, a), C (-a, 0), D (0, -a).
So they're in a square formation (with side a.sqrt(2)).
A is moving towards B. So A is travelling at speed k in the direction from (a, 0) to (0, a).
Which means A's velocity is [-k/sqrt(2), k/sqrt(2)] - the sqrt(2) is there to give it a magnitude of k.
This is made up of a velocity along the X axis (towards the centre) of k/sqrt(2) and a velocity in the Y direction (perpendicular to OA) of k/sqrt(2).
The only assumption there is that the initial configuration is a square. But, because of symmetry, if it starts as a square, it stays as a square. So those are the radial and tangential velocities at any time.
Does that make sense?
Originally posted by mtthwok,....It didn't sink in that the magnitude of velocity had to be = K. ( hence the algebraic factor of sqrt(2) illuded me.
I can try.
Imagine an initial situation like this: ants are at: A (a, 0), B (0, a), C (-a, 0), D (0, -a).
So they're in a square formation (with side a.sqrt(2)).
A is moving towards B. So A is travelling at speed k in the direction from (a, 0) to (0, a).
Which means A's velocity is [-k/sqrt(2), k/sqrt(2)] - the sqrt(2) is there to give it a magn ...[text shortened]... uare. So those are the radial and tangential velocities at any time.
Does that make sense?
thanks again😉