All eyes evolved from a common ancestor!

Originally posted by KellyJay
Fine, display some data go over the meaning and we can talk.
Simply refering to people who agree with you isn't enough.
Kelly

….display some data go over the meaning and we can talk
..…

Ok;

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/evid.anc.earth.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

But, best of all:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-for this references a vast amount of data -so please read through it and I will talk you through it.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Would you understand the data if they were presented to you? I don't think so.

we shall see

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
we shall see

No, he goes one step further and either ignore the data or distrust the data. Why? Because he doesn't care, or he doesn't (want to) understand. And this he does because it contradicts his opinions. Nothing more, nothing less. KJ retorics.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
[b]….display some data go over the meaning and we can talk
..…

Ok;

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/evid.anc.earth.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

But, best of all:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-for this references a vast amount of data -so please read through it and I will talk you through it.[/b]

Pick one, and as I asked start talking to it I do not care which.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Pick one, and as I asked start talking to it I do not care which.
Kelly

Pick one yourself, and we start from there. But it will make you read some science, you don't like that, do you?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Pick one, and as I asked start talking to it I do not care which.
Kelly

Ok, try:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-note that this a “Christian” website so you can’t simply dismiss all this evidence by making out that this is just part of some kind of “atheists conspiracy”.

It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive elements--has been in widespread use for over half a century. There are over FORTY such techniques, each using a DIFFERENT radioactive element or a DIFFERENT WAY of measuring them. It has become increasingly clear that these radiometric dating techniques AGREE with each other and as a whole, present a coherent picture in which the Earth was created a very long time ago. Further evidence comes from the COMPLETE agreement between radiometric dates AND OTHER dating methods such as counting tree rings or glacier ice core layers. Many Christians have been led to distrust radiometric dating and are completely unaware of the GREAT number of laboratory measurements that have shown these methods to be consistent. Many are also unaware that Bible-believing Christians ARE among those actively involved in radiometric dating.
…” (my emphasises)

If you scroll about 2/5ths down to the subtitle:
“Non-Radiometric Dating Methods for the Past 100,000 Years”
You will see how there is a COMPLETE agreement between radiometric dates AND ALL OTHER dating methods -how can this credibly be so if ALL of these dating methods are giving false reading? -the agreement between the DIFFERENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
Ok, try:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-note that this a “Christian” website so you can’t simply dismiss all this evidence by making out that this is just part of some kind of “atheists conspiracy”.

It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive ...[text shortened]... ENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!

Before we begin stop with the 'atheist conspiracy' crap I've never at
any time suggested that was the case in any debate, I have never
had here ever suggested that occurred so for you to start off
suggesting that is insulting and disingenuous of you. Please just stick
to the data, and your thoughts on what you are suggesting it means, I
promise you I will not quote a scripture to you to disprove your logic if
you don’t bring crap like this into our discussion to diminish my objects
if I have any at all.
Kelly

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Pick one yourself, and we start from there. But it will make you read some science, you don't like that, do you?

Start stop mechisims in life, where do they come from why are they
here?
Kelly

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
Ok, try:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-note that this a “Christian” website so you can’t simply dismiss all this evidence by making out that this is just part of some kind of “atheists conspiracy”.

It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive ...[text shortened]... ENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!

Okay going to your data, please understand I do not care one wit
it is or is not a Christian site, that does not add to or take away from
anything as far as I'm concern. I've agreed with and disgreed with
both non-Christians and Christains on several subjects both in and
outside matters of faith and science. The label Christian only means
the people in that group share something with me in my religion, but
that does not mean we will agree on most anything else. From this
point forward it is only the data that matters and yours and my
thoughts on it.
Kelly

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
Ok, try:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-note that this a “Christian” website so you can’t simply dismiss all this evidence by making out that this is just part of some kind of “atheists conspiracy”.

It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive ...[text shortened]... ENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!

”It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive elements--has been in widespread use for over half a century. There are over FORTY such techniques, each using a DIFFERENT radioactive element or a DIFFERENT WAY of measuring them. It has become increasingly clear that these radiometric dating techniques AGREE with each other and as a whole, present a coherent picture in which the Earth was created a very long time ago. Further evidence comes from the COMPLETE agreement between radiometric dates AND OTHER dating methods such as counting tree rings or glacier ice core layers. Many Christians have been led to distrust radiometric dating and are completely unaware of the GREAT number of laboratory measurements that have shown these methods to be consistent. Many are also unaware that Bible-believing Christians ARE among those actively involved in radiometric dating.
…” (my emphasises) “

My thoughts on dating methods are that people these included it
seems like to compare apples and oranges and claim they are the
same thing. The appeal here from the beginning of their approach to
this subject is no different than yours 99% of the time and that is
appeal the herd mentality,

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive elements--has been in widespread use for over half a century…”

Everyone has been doing this for so long it is just accepted as truth,
don’t bother with any objections to how we measure our dates, that is
what I see when I read that line. I do very strongly object to
radiometric dating methods when we apply it to things we have
to claim are thousands, millions, billions of years old, because of the
huge assumptions in play!

We look things in the here and now and see constancy, so we portray
our methods valid and assume nothing changes over time with
different material. That is a huge assumption, since it assumes that
nothing changes over time with different types of material if we test it
the same way. I can look at things with my eyes and see things well
that are far away, but I cannot use my eyes to see things close up,
that type of thing should let you know that just because something
close or far away the same way means our viewing of items could give
you good or bad results without you ever knowning it.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Start stop mechisims in life, where do they come from why are they
here?
Kelly

I don't know what 'mechinisms' means. Cannot find it in my dictionary. Can you explain further?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't know what 'mechinisms' means. Cannot find it in my dictionary. Can you explain further?

Try 'mechanisms' correct spelling is typically a good place to begin.
My bad sorry.
Kelly

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
Ok, try:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

-note that this a “Christian” website so you can’t simply dismiss all this evidence by making out that this is just part of some kind of “atheists conspiracy”.

It says from the start:

“…Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive ...[text shortened]... ENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!

"If you scroll about 2/5ths down to the subtitle:
“Non-Radiometric Dating Methods for the Past 100,000 Years”
You will see how there is a COMPLETE agreement between radiometric dates AND ALL OTHER dating methods -how can this credibly be so if ALL of these dating methods are giving false reading? -the agreement between the DIFFERENT kinds of evidence is so overwhelming that this would be a totally absurd suggestion to make!"

Apples and oranges for the reasons I have already given.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Try 'mechanisms' correct spelling is typically a good place to begin.
My bad sorry.
Kelly

Oh, I see.
Still you have to explain what you mean by "Start stop mechanisms in life", and what you don't understand with it.
I assume you have been doing some googling?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Oh, I see.
Still you have to explain what you mean by "Start stop mechanisms in life", and what you don't understand with it.
I assume you have been doing some googling?

Oh, you mean the procedure to avoid early ejaculation? You have that problem? I had it too when I was a teenager. Try the start stop mechanism and you'll soon get rid of your little problem.