Originally posted by RJHindsAnd again you prove my point.
Another strawman. I said GREAT scientist, that means the famous scientist, not the so-called atheist scientist of today.
The Instructor
You have no clue what a strawman argument is...
It's just a buzz word you have seen others use and that you don't comprehend.
There is no "the famous scientist".
And as an ignoramus fundamentalist Christian you have no say on what constitutes
a real scientist.
You are never going to change your mind about evolution because you stupidly believe
based on faith rather than reason and evidence.
We are never going to change our minds about evolution because we believe based on
reason and evidence and reject faith.
Your thread and constant posts about evolution are thus a pointless waste of time and
effort.
You have lost man of the dark ages. We had the enlightenment, your time is centuries past.
You've lost.
Do so gracefully or silently or just elsewhere.
Originally posted by googlefudgeHe's a troll, he's not a Christian, I know some good Christians (from both sides of viewing what a Christian is) and he's not one of them. According to what I read in the chess thread he's an engine user, and if there is a God will be punished for it. Don't feed the troll.
And again you prove my point.
You have no clue what a strawman argument is...
It's just a buzz word you have seen others use and that you don't comprehend.
There is no "the famous scientist".
And as an ignoramus fundamentalist Christian you have no say on what constitutes
a real scientist.
You are never going to change your mind about e ...[text shortened]... time is centuries past.
You've lost.
Do so gracefully or silently or just elsewhere.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtHave you ever considered the possibility that one can be lucky and get some almost flawless looking wins without being an engine user during his games in progress.
He's a troll, he's not a Christian, I know some good Christians (from both sides of viewing what a Christian is) and he's not one of them. According to what I read in the chess thread he's an engine user, and if there is a God will be punished for it. Don't feed the troll.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsNot that high a match. Not even Kasparov would rank that high a match against engines. You must think we are so stupid you want us to believe you are not using engines.
Have you ever considered the possibility that one can be lucky and get some almost flawless looking wins without being an engine user during his games in progress.
The Instructor
Originally posted by sonhouseYou have already been accused of being one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain, so what could you know? Kasparov has beaten chess computers before. He beat IBM's Deep Blue in the first match by 2 points and only lost by one point in the second match.
Not that high a match. Not even Kasparov would rank that high a match against engines. You must think we are so stupid you want us to believe you are not using engines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov
You are implying that I am better than kasparov and anyone knows that is ridiculous, except one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsSo invite us up to your flat and let us see you make your perfect moves on your own.
You have already been accused of being one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain, so what could you know? Kasparov has beaten chess computers before. He beat IBM's Deep Blue in the first match by 2 points and only lost by one point in the second match.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov
You are ...[text shortened]... cept one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, we are not implying you are better than Kas. We are saying up front nobody can make moves in game after game that matches an engine/cpu combination, not even Kas. That just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you use engines and we are just waiting for the day when you too follow the lead of Ironman31.
You have already been accused of being one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain, so what could you know? Kasparov has beaten chess computers before. He beat IBM's Deep Blue in the first match by 2 points and only lost by one point in the second match.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov
You are ...[text shortened]... cept one with the smallest amount of common sense and less than half a brain.
The Instructor
Originally posted by sonhouseThis is way off topic. Is attacking my character the only way you have of responding to the the fact that famous scientist rejected Darwinian Evolution or what is also known as Evil-lution?
No, we are not implying you are better than Kas. We are saying up front nobody can make moves in game after game that matches an engine/cpu combination, not even Kas. That just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you use engines and we are just waiting for the day when you too follow the lead of Ironman31.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsThose 'famous' scientists reject evolution because they can't stand to have it replace the fairy tales in the bible, they don't have real data, just video's on you tube. That is not the way science works.
This is way off topic. Is attacking my character the only way you have of responding to the the fact that famous scientist rejected Darwinian Evolution or what is also known as Evil-lution?
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsWhatever? That's your big refutation? Why do you think it is science if a bunch of creationist's who happen to be scientists giving an opinion on a youtube video is science? That is not science. That is an individual giving an opinion.
Whatever.
The Instructor
Science is where you have a person or a team of people gathering data, sometimes for decades, coming to a conclusion with that data, publishing a reason for that data in the form of a hypothesis that other scientists can try to falsify and if the data holds up and the hypothesis is defended well by the scientists then it becomes the best theory to explain whatever phenomena the scientist has studied.
That kind of scientific effort uses the exact same sequence of data gathering, hypothesizing and so forth that any other scientific effort uses, the same for atmospheric phenomena, for astronomy, for math, for biology, for genetics, for evolution, for geology.
Timelines have to be computed using many different methods, in geology, there are something like 20 different methods that all converge on a date for ages of rocks and formations.
That is why creationists who happen to be scientists will never go beyond just voicing their opinion on a youtube video, not for science but for religious political reasons. There is no science in a youtube video, only opinions. You seem to think that actual science is being done on youtube but you are seriously mistaken about that.
08 Jul 13
Originally posted by sonhouseThe creation scientists also gather data over a period of time and do experiments and all that stuff too. They just come to different conclusions than the evilutionists.
Whatever? That's your big refutation? Why do you think it is science if a bunch of creationist's who happen to be scientists giving an opinion on a youtube video is science? That is not science. That is an individual giving an opinion.
Science is where you have a person or a team of people gathering data, sometimes for decades, coming to a conclusion with ...[text shortened]... think that actual science is being done on youtube but you are seriously mistaken about that.
I like their conclusions because it agrees with the way I think about it. Evilution seems stupid and not practical too me.
These videos of their work and opinions are sometimes posted as youtube videos by other people for all our benefit, so we are better informed than just having one side, like the Soviet Union used to do to their citizens. Now we don't want that, so that is why some of us believe the problems with evilution theory should be taught along with intelligent design.
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