Let's nuke climate change!

@sonhouse said
So show me the corruption of Warren and Biden. You seem to say you want Trump impeached but you keep indirectly defending him by doing 'what about himism'.
We are concentrating on the corruption of TRUMP, since he causes a LOT more damage to the credibility of the US than ANYTHING Biden or Warren can do.
He HAS to be held to a higher standard because he can cause a millio ...[text shortened]... to get rid of Trump. He is a traitor, doing Putin's work and in love with the North Korean dictator.

https://www.leftvoice.org/Elizabeth-Warren-Votes-for-Massive-Increase-of-War-Budget

http://inthesetimes.com/features/joe-biden-iraq-war-vote-democratic-primary-2020.html

@metal-brain said
https://www.leftvoice.org/Elizabeth-Warren-Votes-for-Massive-Increase-of-War-Budget

http://inthesetimes.com/features/joe-biden-iraq-war-vote-democratic-primary-2020.html

Don't you get it? Trump is so corrupt those folks look like a PTA meeting.
You forget the part it is the PRESENT we are talking about and the damage to the country and the world an out of control sociopath like Trump can and IS doing to our country?
Your 'what about himism' doesn't fly and it looks more and more like you are just paying lip service to the impeachment idea while secretly supporting Trump.

@sonhouse said
Don't you get it? Trump is so corrupt those folks look like a PTA meeting.
You forget the part it is the PRESENT we are talking about and the damage to the country and the world an out of control sociopath like Trump can and IS doing to our country?
Your 'what about himism' doesn't fly and it looks more and more like you are just paying lip service to the impeachment idea while secretly supporting Trump.

Don't you get it? Republicans think the same thing about any demorat POTUS. All presidents are corrupt in recent history. Have you ever studied history without partisan bias? Obama and the Clintons are corrupt too. Corruption is not confined to one political party. If you think it is you are divided and conquered. Brainwashed, really. If you were not brainwashed you would know how stupid you seem to those that are not partisan creatures. Seriously, do you think only republicans are corrupt? That is exactly what the elites want you to believe. They equally want republicans to believe the same of the democrats and they have successfully accomplished that. Both sides divided and conquered. You are too busy fighting each other to realize both are corrupt as hell. That is why nothing significant changes for the better....except for the super wealthy. That never changes.
What continues is racist policies. You know Biden is a racist, but so is Al Gore. He wants to keep Africans from breeding as much. Nothing about white people. Al Gore is a racist!

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@metal-brain said
Don't you get it? Republicans think the same thing about any demorat POTUS. All presidents are corrupt in recent history. Have you ever studied history without partisan bias? Obama and the Clintons are corrupt too. Corruption is not confined to one political party. If you think it is you are divided and conquered. Brainwashed, really. If you were not brainwashed you would ...[text shortened]... uch. Nothing about white people. Al Gore is a racist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxROw4V9yoU

So you really are supporting Trump in spite of your denials. That seems to be the bottom line. You don't seem to CARE how much damage Trump has, is, and will be doing to both the US and the world.
You don't seem to understand just how dangerous Trump is the way he is 'governing '
You don't seem to care he calls out the 'Squad' urging them to go back to their own country. We are not talking about people who are not ATT POTUS.
We are talking about the SITTING POTUS. Biden might be the most racist son of a bitch ever and is buddy buddy with David Duke. Right now that matters ZERO.
It is TRUMP screwing up EVERYTHING.
For instance, now we see a seeming coincidence: In 1986 Trump went to Moscow to drum up support for his Moscow Tower deal.
Well, a funny thing happened when he got back.
All of a sudden, LITERALLY, as soon as he got back, he started touting the end of NATO.
To my mind NOT a coincidence.
I think it went like this: Ok, Mr T, we here in Russia are afraid of NATO, and you want this Moscow Trump Tower.
So here is the deal, go back, start talking about killing NATO, pulling out and such.
Use your considerable influence to do that, we will have a deal, you will make more money than you ever thought possible.

Coincidence? For Trump who never spoke about much of anything in world circles, now all of a sudden wants to have the US pull out of NATO and then as POTUS says NATO, you are not paying your share, we think the US will pull out of NATO.

THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF. Maybe one of the MOST serious breaches.

@sonhouse said
So you really are supporting Trump in spite of your denials. That seems to be the bottom line. You don't seem to CARE how much damage Trump has, is, and will be doing to both the US and the world.
You don't seem to understand just how dangerous Trump is the way he is 'governing '
You don't seem to care he calls out the 'Squad' urging them to go back to their own country. ...[text shortened]... ink the US will pull out of NATO.

THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF. Maybe one of the MOST serious breaches.

Nope, they are all corrupt. Dr. Evil only advises corrupt tools. He isn't partisan because he knows they all work for the evil elites he serves as well. They created the partisan divide to divide and conquer all of you. They know it is a false right/left paradigm. Do you really think Kissinger cares which tool he advises to do corrupt work? He will advise democrats as well as republicans. They both serve the elites because the elites put every one of them in power, democrats and republicans.

https://themindunleashed.com/2018/07/in-54-years-1-advisor-has-influenced-every-single-us-president-photos.html

Partisan bias is stupid. Anybody who falls for it is gullible.

@metal-brain said
Nope, they are all corrupt. Dr. Evil only advises corrupt tools. He isn't partisan because he knows they all work for the evil elites he serves as well. They created the partisan divide to divide and conquer all of you. They know it is a false right/left paradigm. Do you really think Kissinger cares which tool he advises to do corrupt work? He will advise democrats as wel ...[text shortened]... ry-single-us-president-photos.html

Partisan bias is stupid. Anybody who falls for it is gullible.

So to you the damage Trump is causing the US and US credibility around the world means NOTHING?
You don't care if powerless people (powerless on the world stage) who may be corrupt but cannot wield the corruption the real powerful can.
I don't understand your stance where you say they are all corrupt. FINE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE CORRUPTION OF TRUMP TO DEAL WITH. Not some political wannabe's.
So lets say Biden is the most corrupt individual on the planet. Exactly how is that going to effect anything Trump has done, is doing as we speak, and WILL do in the future.
For instance, suppose Trump does NOT go quietly into the cold night if he is beaten by someone, and I might add that someone can also be another republican because Trump is not running unopposed.
So suppose Trump decides 'that election was RIGGED' Therefore the military is hereby ordered to arrest the House and Senate and SCOTUS.
What would you think THEN? Still stick to your EVERYONE ELSE IS CORRUPT SO IGNORE WHATEVER TRUMP DOES card?

@sonhouse said
So to you the damage Trump is causing the US and US credibility around the world means NOTHING?
You don't care if powerless people (powerless on the world stage) who may be corrupt but cannot wield the corruption the real powerful can.
I don't understand your stance where you say they are all corrupt. FINE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE CORRUPTION OF TRUMP TO DEAL WITH. Not som ...[text shortened]... uld you think THEN? Still stick to your EVERYONE ELSE IS CORRUPT SO IGNORE WHATEVER TRUMP DOES card?

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/divided-and-conquered.181573

@metal-brain said
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/divided-and-conquered.181573

Back to the issue at hand. These folks are proposing a new strategy that would require reworking our international nuclear proliferation treaties. Certainly, this would add to some diplomatic tensions. (note: the calculated risk of meltdown of gen III reactors is 10^-7. We have to move past saying they're dangerous. That's bs.)

Promises and limitations of nuclear fission energy in combating climat... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421518303318

@wildgrass said
Back to the issue at hand. These folks are proposing a new strategy that would require reworking our international nuclear proliferation treaties. Certainly, this would add to some diplomatic tensions. (note: the calculated risk of meltdown of gen III reactors is 10^-7. We have to move past saying they're dangerous. That's bs.)

Promises and limitations of nuclear fission energy in combating climat... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421518303318

Burning fossil fuels is good for the planet. Plants are growing faster giving us more food. A warmer planet means more rainfall worldwide. More food, not less.
Pollution is a problem that should be addressed. Mercury is being legally dumped into the great lakes. That is a problem you should focus on, not CO2. This planet was carbon starved and we helped by increasing it in the atmosphere. It is the best thing to happen to the planet in recent history.

I reject the notion that nuclear is necessary. More CO2 is good, not bad. Your side has been exaggerating and lying for too long. Alarmists have lost credibility and that is their own fault. They chose to lie and exaggerate, nobody made them do that. It was a choice.

https://phys.org/news/2019-07-years-unique-reveal-coral-reefs.html?fbclid=IwAR13MQ_rhuTGCm0N8MMsKmypwyqBDYlZynHmr3GxcoxoZ3xY9RBYLs4KFu8

@metal-brain said
Burning fossil fuels is good for the planet. Plants are growing faster giving us more food. A warmer planet means more rainfall worldwide. More food, not less.
Pollution is a problem that should be addressed. Mercury is being legally dumped into the great lakes. That is a problem you should focus on, not CO2. This planet was carbon starved and we helped by increasing it ...[text shortened]... -unique-reveal-coral-reefs.html?fbclid=IwAR13MQ_rhuTGCm0N8MMsKmypwyqBDYlZynHmr3GxcoxoZ3xY9RBYLs4KFu8

This article argues that nitrogen runoff is killing coral reefs.

Why is there nitrogen runoff? To feed the plants. Case in point - you can have too much of a good thing. For the past 10,000 years or so, we've had an ideal planetary climate for humanity. That is clearly changing. You aren't concerned at all?

@wildgrass said
This article argues that nitrogen runoff is killing coral reefs.

yes, and it doesn't even argue that none of it is caused by global warming but rather merely says its caused more by nitrogen runoff than global warming but without in anyway implying global warming hasn't a significant effect with killing coral. Where is the contradiction in BOTH of those things having a significant effect with killing coral? -merely one having more an effect than the other? And, even if they hypothetically DID think global warming hasn't a significant effect with killing coral (and that wasn't implied by the link), given this link is only about the effects on specifically only coral, they would obviously still think global warming has a significant effect on other things, such as the frequency of severe hurricanes etc. because, after all, that's what the science says.
That link asserts;

"...the problem of coral bleaching is not just due to a warming planet,..."

where the words "not just" above clearly implies they still think global warming IS a contributing factor to killing coral.

So he scores an own goal here by giving that link. As so often the case he either completely misunderstands everything he reads or doesn't even bother to read the link he provides or, just perhaps, deliberately and dishonestly pretends the link says something to support his assertions when he knows it doesn't.

@metal-brain said
Burning fossil fuels is good for the planet. Plants are growing faster giving us more food. A warmer planet means more rainfall worldwide. More food, not less.
Pollution is a problem that should be addressed. Mercury is being legally dumped into the great lakes. That is a problem you should focus on, not CO2. This planet was carbon starved and we helped by increasing it ...[text shortened]... -unique-reveal-coral-reefs.html?fbclid=IwAR13MQ_rhuTGCm0N8MMsKmypwyqBDYlZynHmr3GxcoxoZ3xY9RBYLs4KFu8

And you are ignoring the USDA science report, suppressed by Trump, that clearly shows the more CO2 the less nutrients in rice, staple for hundreds of millions of people around the world.
But, no big deal, right?

@wildgrass said
This article argues that nitrogen runoff is killing coral reefs.

Why is there nitrogen runoff? To feed the plants. Case in point - you can have too much of a good thing. For the past 10,000 years or so, we've had an ideal planetary climate for humanity. That is clearly changing. You aren't concerned at all?

Yes, I am concerned about nitrogen runoff, mercury dumping and other things that are a real problem.

@wildgrass said
Back to the issue at hand. These folks are proposing a new strategy that would require reworking our international nuclear proliferation treaties. Certainly, this would add to some diplomatic tensions. (note: the calculated risk of meltdown of gen III reactors is 10^-7. We have to move past saying they're dangerous. That's bs.)

Promises and limitations of nuclear fission energy in combating climat... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421518303318

Calculated risk? In other words an estimate. Estimates do not prove safety.
CO2 is beneficial to the planet. The burning of fossil fuels is good for plants and the people that eat them. Your political leanings have convinced you a good thing is bad because of propaganda. Man is not even the main cause of global warming. Sea level rise proves that.
Why do you believe alarmists that lie? At some point it becomes logical to reject the liars as lacking credibility, yet you cling onto the belief like a religion. Just take humy for example. I proved global warming is not the main cause of the damage to coral reefs and he dismisses all the propaganda he repeated like a parrot as an unfortunate lie he believed. He has no intention of rejecting alarmists even thought they lied and duped him into believing the falsehood. The article doesn't even mention cyanide fishing which we also know damages coral reefs. A warmer ocean also cannot hold as much CO2, effectively buffering any de-alkali nation alarmists panic about.
By demonizing CO2 the very people who care about the environment are unwittingly damaging it by merely ignoring the true causes of damage to coral reefs. In short, by attacking a false cause alarmists condone the continued damage to coral reefs. Alarmists are doing more harm than good to the environment. They can't just ignore the true causes and expect improvement. Alarmists have a moral obligation to correct their rhetoric for the sake of the environment. I suspect admitting they are wrong is too painful for them to meet their moral obligation though. In other words, they don't care as much as they pretend.

The science proves global warming is not a threat to coral reefs. Stop ignoring science!

@sonhouse said
And you are ignoring the USDA science report, suppressed by Trump, that clearly shows the more CO2 the less nutrients in rice, staple for hundreds of millions of people around the world.
But, no big deal, right?

No big deal. Anything that causes plants to grow faster is going to have that relatively insignificant effect.
Irrigation causes the same thing. Are you going to demonize water now?