31 Dec 20
@Metal-Brain
The US is the most over fed under nourished country to ever exist.
Yes, a Brazil nut a day is a good idea for everyone.
Covid is only an issue for people with issues. A healthy person has nothing to fear from covid. But if everyone was healthy, how could the government grow its power and how could big pharm make money?
31 Dec 20
Here is what 171 covid scientific researches say...
This campaign group of Vitamin D and Covid-19 researchers, including myself, started the process to write this letter for the purpose to make all aware about the benefits of Vitamin D supplementation in Covid-19 infected patients and sending this letter to all health ministries, healthcare workers, governmental bodies and NGOs,” Haq told PTI. According to the letter, which had 171 signatories by Wednesday, evidence suggests the possibility that the Covid-19 pandemic sustains itself in large part through infection of those with low Vitamin D and deaths are concentrated largely in those with deficiency.
01 Jan 21
@humy said"This is the old age perennial problem of people, mostly laypeople, confusing and equating correlation with causation"
This is the old age perennial problem of people, mostly laypeople, confusing and equating correlation with causation. To help them understand their confusion, you may ask them;
"Night is always followed by day so night is clearly correlated with day. Does that mean night CAUSES day?"
People that are vit D deficient are more likely to have a whole host of other probems, such ...[text shortened]... day?
Obviously, that's not my claim but rather my claim is we don't yet know; and that's the point.
LOL! You are doing just that in regards to how contagious the new variant is. You should listen to your own advice.
@metal-brain saidHow so? Your above assertion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How contagious something is isn't a 'correlation'.
"This is the old age perennial problem of people, mostly laypeople, confusing and equating correlation with causation"
You are doing just that in regards to how contagious the new variant is.
01 Jan 21
@humy saidThe correlation is the claim that because it is a dominant strain it must be more contagious. That doesn't prove causation either.
How so? Your above assertion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How contagious something is isn't a 'correlation'.
You are applying double standards.
01 Jan 21
@eladar saidWould you agree that the three ongoing clinical trial trials on the relationship between VitD levels and COVID outcomes are led by specialists / experts? I am sure they did their due diligence on the correct levels required for assessing meaningful biological outcomes.
Hypocrite because you know full well nobody who posts here is a covid researcher, let alone specialising in things like nutrients.
You do not. Nobody else does, but you only ask me. That makes you a hypocrite.
In one of the trials, I thought it was interesting that, upon admittance of a COVID-positive patient in the trial, they were also planning to randomly assign their family members in either placebo or VitD supplement. The intention here, is that at least some of the family may have been exposed and will test positive at a later date. These results, when publicly available, may address some of the prophylaxis issues you are raising.
@metal-brain saidThat isn't a 'correlation' but an 'argument'.
The correlation is the claim that because it is a dominant strain it must be more contagious.
And I didn't notice anywhere that argument being explicitly and directly made; only the reported observation that it spreads faster which is by definition what more contagious means.
Apparently you don't understand plain English.
Do you deny that reported observation?
Obviously they are talking about a statistical kind of correlation in the context of vit D being correlated with greater covid cases and covid deaths.
https://www.surveysystem.com/correlation.htm
"Correlation is a statistical technique that can show whether and how strongly pairs of variables are related. "
And how contagious something is isn't a statistical 'correlation' but rather how contagious something is. Thus, just as I said; your assertion doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
@metal-brain saidNo I didn't.
You asserted a correlation and then argued about it.
I said
"Here below is a link about a study that suggests a strong correlation between severe vit D deficiency and covid deaths"
and then said nothing to imply no such correlation exists but rather implied that correlation doesn't equate with causation, which is correct.
You did both.
Did "both" what? SPEAK ENGLISH.
01 Jan 21
@wildgrass saidI would agree that experts have a conflict of interest if they have ties with big pharm.
Would you agree that the three ongoing clinical trial trials on the relationship between VitD levels and COVID outcomes are led by specialists / experts? I am sure they did their due diligence on the correct levels required for assessing meaningful biological outcomes.
In one of the trials, I thought it was interesting that, upon admittance of a COVID-positive patient in ...[text shortened]... These results, when publicly available, may address some of the prophylaxis issues you are raising.
01 Jan 21
@humy saidYour error is apparent.
This is the old age perennial problem of people, mostly laypeople, confusing and equating correlation with causation. To help them understand their confusion, you may ask them;
"Night is always followed by day so night is clearly correlated with day. Does that mean night CAUSES day?"
People that are vit D deficient are more likely to have a whole host of other probems, such ...[text shortened]... day?
Obviously, that's not my claim but rather my claim is we don't yet know; and that's the point.