Why don't stars change position?

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
It would REALLY help if you ever had a decent education, for instance your talk about stars not having redshift when they move away is right but you have not heard the opposite effect, BLUE SHIFT, if a star comes towards us the light and every other form of radiation changes frequency UP so that can make a yellow star look green if it is moving fast enough and ...[text shortened]... head of a person standing on a planet a thousand light years away if it was in direct line of sight,

@Metal-Brain
Funny you would comment on that but not on the actual science content.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Funny you would comment on that but not on the actual science content.

@Metal-Brain
"If a star is moving away from you there might be a redshift observed. If it is moving away from you at the same speed you are moving toward it, you would see no redshift. If it is moving away from you at twice the speed you are moving toward it, you would see half as much redshift. Am I right?"

It sounded like you didn't know blue shift from that statement, Sorry if I misunderstood.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
"If a star is moving away from you there might be a redshift observed. If it is moving away from you at the same speed you are moving toward it, you would see no redshift. If it is moving away from you at twice the speed you are moving toward it, you would see half as much redshift. Am I right?"

It sounded like you didn't know blue shift from that statement, Sorry if I misunderstood.

@Suzianne
Pretty much🙂

@suzianne said
Sounds like he doesn't grok doppler shift at all, nor what causes it.

@Metal-Brain
A subject you know all too well since you are an expert at it.
She has a REAL college degree so good luck trying to outthink her.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
A subject you know all too well since you are an expert at it.
She has a REAL college degree so good luck trying to outthink her.

@Metal-Brain
I know her better than I know you, we have PM's for years.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
I know her better than I know you, we have PM's for years.

@Metal-Brain
No, Suz and I both know both spacetime bending is what we call gravity and it is well proven by atomic clocks now super accurate enough to see the time flow shift from an altitude of one METER up or down AND the same from velocity, TWO separate physics ending up with the same effect, but since you hang on the word of one dude, that is the ONLY explanation for you since you are too obtuse to listen to other scientists, you hang your hat one ONE dude and I don't care if he DID get a Nobel prize.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
No, Suz and I both know both spacetime bending is what we call gravity and it is well proven by atomic clocks now super accurate enough to see the time flow shift from an altitude of one METER up or down AND the same from velocity, TWO separate physics ending up with the same effect, but since you hang on the word of one dude, that is the ONLY explanation for y ...[text shortened]... en to other scientists, you hang your hat one ONE dude and I don't care if he DID get a Nobel prize.

@Metal-Brain
No I am saying the bending of space time from the interaction of mass with said spacetime is what causes BOTH gravity and time dilation and you can poo poo that all you want but it has been shown clearly atomic clocks now accurate to within one second compared to the entire age of the universe can see changes in time flow from one altitude to a different one either up or down a gravity well, with a movement of said clocks or difference of as small a distance between them up and down of one meter or less.
You want to believe people who put up your argument and you NEVER change you mind on any subject no matter what the refutations coming along.
And the same with velocity but of course you ALWAYS know better. So write it up for you coming Phd thesis and then we can talk.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
No I am saying the bending of space time from the interaction of mass with said spacetime is what causes BOTH gravity and time dilation and you can poo poo that all you want but it has been shown clearly atomic clocks now accurate to within one second compared to the entire age of the universe can see changes in time flow from one altitude to a different one ei ...[text shortened]... but of course you ALWAYS know better. So write it up for you coming Phd thesis and then we can talk.