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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok fine, it was perhaps my fault for posting the actual mathematics which confused people.

What happens when you win a game, your rating goes up. What happens when you lose a game, your rating goes down. Moonbus initially proposed a system whereby clans are rewarded for their performance, just like players, We can think of a clan as a single en ...[text shortened]... hardly go up any either because the two are linked)

feel free to ask me anything about this.
I am still unable to understand how this will stop clans helping ( I will not say colluding .you will probably run to the headmaster and get it taken off ) each other out ?
The more I start to see how this will run the more I an convinced this just a scam to make easier for you to manipulate it

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How about this for an idea. Just scrap the clan system all together, and just have tourney,s and open invites. That would fool the sandbaggers and colluders would'nt it.

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Originally posted by Steve45
How about this for an idea. Just scrap the clan system all together, and just have tourney,s and open invites. That would fool the sandbaggers and colluders would'nt it.
Good idea
Nice to see someone who only resigns when he is losing and not just to get their rating down

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Originally posted by Steve45
How about this for an idea. Just scrap the clan system all together, and just have tourney,s and open invites. That would fool the sandbaggers and colluders would'nt it.
i think thats the only answer, no system will work without integrity or those caught punished. both are non existent here

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Whatever you say dude. I have explained with reference how the system could be improved no end. Sandbagging would be eradicated, throwing games would be eradicated and clans would be rewarded for their performance. All you can think of is punishing people, fine.
you have not explained how to stop collusion, throwing some maths about calling players dim is useless

you say your system will stop collusion your reason is "because clans have nothing to gain" just curious what did three clans gain last year by giving you over 700 points? you cant be trusted a points removal and a warning issued is the only way forward.

report away get it removed i will just re post the facts again.

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Originally posted by roma45
you have not explained how to stop collusion, throwing some maths about calling players dim is useless

you say your system will stop collusion your reason is "because clans have nothing to gain" just curious what did three clans gain last year by giving you over 700 points? you cant be trusted a points removal and a warning issued is the only way forward.

report away get it removed i will just re post the facts again.
You can be assured that anything Robbie proposes is only a devious way for him to collude with other clans to try to push his clan to the top of the clan standings.

roma45
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Originally posted by my2sons
You can be assured that anything Robbie proposes is only a devious way for him to collude with other clans to try to push his clan to the top of the clan standings.
hes a che...sorry i mean protester no doubt
do you have any idea what hes harping on about?
he says his wonder system will make collusion not beneficial i smell total BS there is never an excuse to che,,, sorry again i mean protest

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why can't we have it all?

a group if impartial referees can be appointed and empowered

they can review last year's play if you like

suggestions that tighten up the system can also be adopted

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Originally posted by Giannotti
why can't we have it all?

a group if impartial referees can be appointed and empowered

they can review last year's play if you like

suggestions that tighten up the system can also be adopted
I think we have provided enough information for Russ to begin his requirements gathering.
This thread has passed 300 posts so he will have a significant task ahead of him.
Patience will be required on our part.

And we should refrain from adding spam to this thread.

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Originally posted by Giannotti
why can't we have it all?

a group of impartial referees can be appointed and empowered

they can review last year's play if you like

suggestions that tighten up the system can also be adopted
Been reading the thread and the one thing I'm positive of is that it's impossible on this site to get impartial referees/committee/whatever. I just don't think it's reasonable to think that one side or the other won't have representatives on the group. Then the fighting will be about the committee rather than the improvement of the site. [What have I done? Now I'm in the firing line. LOL]

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Originally posted by lstcyr
Been reading the thread and the one thing I'm positive of is that it's impossible on this site to get impartial referees/committee/whatever. I just don't think it's reasonable to think that one side or the other won't have representatives on the group. Then the fighting will be about the committee rather than the improvement of the site. [What have I done? Now I'm in the firing line. LOL]
i think you and me would make good impartial referees 😀😀😀😀

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referees can't be impartial if they compete in the clan system

we need old hands who are familiar with it, but no longer playing for any clan

there should also be a one year term limit for them

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why can't Russ be the final word
he is intelligent enough to figure it out
if he sees wrongdoing
let him dictate the punishment

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Originally posted by Hopster
A real shame, like yourself a player I have many games against.
If nothing else, this indicates how sensitive some people can get over the inequality of their little cyber world. Yes, I also sometimes spend an incredible amount of myself in calculating a fair but winning approach to my cyber world.

I really wish you guys would hold off on flying away just because of a pig farm opened next door.

Sorry, just hope you help work this out as a community rather than as a consumer.

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Originally posted by lemondrop
why can't Russ be the final word
he is intelligent enough to figure it out
if he sees wrongdoing
let him dictate the punishment
didn't work out so well in 2016 when 4 clans obviously colluded to elevate a specific clan to the top of the standings did it?

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