Originally posted by AThousandYoungNow that Russ has "Club Ratings" for each user, perhaps he could have "Clan Ratings".
[b]How exactly could one "manipulate" a clan rating??
Intentionally losing games outside of clan challenges so as to increase the "rating disparity" bonus IN clan challenges.[/b]
Would be interesting, and would avoid outside manipulation.
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Good idea number one.
Before I post this, a disclaimer: I didn't read all of the thread, don't have much time now, just some more ideas...
I agree with marauder - the LCSS has been one of the biggest mistakes made by Russ on this site and before I ever really get back into the clans thing, it will have to be fixed.
1)
Your idea will also mean lopsided challenges wouldn't matter so much anymore, because the higher rated clan won't really get the same amount of points out of it than they do now and there would be a risk that the lower rated clan could actually come out on top...
2)
If we can work some incentive in to stimulate larger challenges I might actually be interested again!
So, how about a sliding scale giving bonus rating points (BP) for the winning clan:
1-4 players = 0 BP
5-10 = 10 BP
11-15 = 30 BP
16-19 = 60 BP
20 = 100 BP
or something similar. We absolutely have to give incentives to make larger clans and play larger challenges and these 1 or 2 person clans are just redundant.
Because of your rating idea, clans won't have to worry too much about it not being a 'fair' challenge, because of point (1).
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The bonus point system can possibly be further refined to something where only if the winning clan wins 66% of the games, do they receive full bonus points, otherwise the losing clan takes some of the bonus points.
This could possibly help with the 'problem' of people resigning games if the clan has already lost. Every game now counts + there is some incentive for putting up a good fight in the challenge in order to get some BP.
Originally posted by adramforallIn the USCF you have 3 or 4 ratings based on time controls I understand. I see little difference here. If a player plays as 1900 in clans and tourneys, but 'sandbags' to take advantage of situations keeping their average down... this would be a fix.
There are getting to be far too many ratings which will make them meaningless.
Games that don't count in their mind wouldn't affect their rating for games that do count in their mind.
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Originally posted by CrowleyYes, a new system is in order. The one given in this thread is worth trying.
Metallica has just reached a milestone 10,000 'points'.
LAME.
We need a new system, ASAP!
Also, I'd prefer to see the clan table sorted by best team of the year, and not all-time. Emphasizing the yearly score will encourage new clans to try and become that year's champion, rather than having to make up thousands of points just to catch up with the older clans.
Originally posted by CrowleyLong Live Metallica!
Metallica has just reached a milestone 10,000 'points'.
LAME.
We need a new system, ASAP!
Everyone has the same point system. Only now there is only two teams in the running pretty much, possibly a 3rd (maybe) !
I guess one way to catch them would be to start a new system. 😛
Actually probably the only way!
Originally posted by Very RustyWhy have a system that only makes clan challenges meaningful for two (possibly) three clans?
Long Live Metallica!
Everyone has the same point system. Only now there is only two teams in the running pretty much, possibly a 3rd (maybe) !
I guess one way to catch them would be to start a new system. 😛
Actually probably the only way!
Originally posted by no1marauderThe system is for all clans, the other clans got left in the dust. I guess they could declare Metallica the #1 Clan of that System. Mark my words down, with any system, someone is going to be doing some whinning about it.
Why have a system that only makes clan challenges meaningful for two (possibly) three clans?
And why would a non-sub scumbag be interested, also one who isn't even in a clan? Is this all you have to do with your time? 😛
Originally posted by Very RustyMore personal attacks from the biggest whiner on the site.
The system is for all clans, the other clans got left in the dust. I guess they could declare Metallica the #1 Clan of that System. Mark my words down, with any system, someone is going to be doing some whinning about it.
And why would a non-sub scumbag be interested, also one who isn't even in a clan? Is this all you have to do with your time? 😛
90%+ of Metallica's points were scored before you had anything to do with it, so you're just a sorry front runner leeching off other people's "accomplishments".
I realize it's all about you in your "mind" but I and others have been advocating a change in the LAME CLAN CHALLENGE SCORING SYSTEM for about 4 years. There was even a community vote where 86% voted for a change in the scoring system.
And this non-sub has paid a lot more money to this site than you, a Johnny Come Lately loudmouth.
PS I realize by responding to you, you are certain to make this thread nothing more than yet another thread where you whine, complain and make it all about the personalities of the posters. Please check the Forum title; this is "Site Ideas" not "All About Rusty".
EDIT: Here's what the Contumelious Clan did to "#1" Metallica in MEGACHALLENGE III (the only time they played): http://www.timeforchess.com/clanchallenge/viewchallenge.php?challengeid=35006
Originally posted by no1marauderAnd the point system effects you in what way?
More personal attacks from the biggest whiner on the site.
90%+ of Metallica's points were scored before you had anything to do with it, so you're just a sorry front runner leeching off other people's "accomplishments".
I realize it's all about you in your "mind" but I and others have been advocating a change in the d): http://www.timeforchess.com/clanchallenge/viewchallenge.php?challengeid=35006
You are not in a clan?
You have never called anyone a non-sub scumbag when you were a member?
I certainly don't have priority in the "whine", you do enough of it yourself, especially about the point system, that you are not even a part of then you have the gall to say it is not all about Rusty.
I am in a clan, You are not! You do understand that part?
Give you head a shake and smell the roses "No One, non-sub scumbag"! 😛
EDIT: You do understand that in your comments, you once again put across that you know everything, try to put me down because Metallica asked me to join them in August. Are you mad they didn't ask you?
Keep in mind I was with them since August...Ask My leader if I was a help or a leech. He will help you to understand what you don't know, and have no idea of what you are talking about.
Originally posted by Very RustyGFY.
And the point system effects you in what way?
You are not in a clan?
You have never called anyone a non-sub scumbag when you were a member?
I certainly don't have priority in the "whine", you do enough of it yourself, especially about the point system, that you are not even a part of then you have the gall to say it is not all about Rusty.
I ...[text shortened]... lp you to understand what you don't know, and have no idea of what you are talking about.