Spirituality
08 Jan 18
09 Jan 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemThe way you see things is based on what is in your heart. The way you see things makes the word of God meaningless. This is the work of evil.
Say what?! 🙄
How does that follow from anything I said? It's like you get tired of talking to people and spin the random religious cliche wheel and just post what you land on.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemI think is possible and acceptable to use the phase “biblical perspective” when one has be discussing something from a “secular perspective”; that is to introduce a generalise biblical perspective which is recognised as being mainstream to provide context. However I don’t think it is possible when discussing spiritual concepts and their basis in scripture because at this level of detail the “biblical perspective” is something each protagonist holds and may be different from each other.
Mainly, I'm looking for 2 answers.
1) Do you think there is such a thing as a "Biblical perspective" - is it a phrase you would introduce into a discussion?
2) If so, how can that be differentiated from all personal interpretations?
It’s a little like the difference between viewing the earth from space in “Google Earth” and then being in the detail in “street view”. If that allalogy makes sense.
Originally posted by @divegeesterIt makes sense, I think. You are saying that the term is useful at a broad enough scope.
I think is possible and acceptable to use the phase “biblical perspective” when one has be discussing something from a “secular perspective”; that is to introduce a generalise biblical perspective which is recognised as being mainstream to provide context. However I don’t think it is possible when discussing spiritual concepts and their basis in scriptu ...[text shortened]... e in “Google Earth” and then being in the detail in “street view”. If that allalogy makes sense.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemBwa ha ha! It's exactly like that.
Say what?! 🙄
How does that follow from anything I said? It's like you get tired of talking to people and spin the random religious cliche wheel and just post what you land on.
I try to give him a wide berth. He comes up with the weirdest crap that he says "It's in the Bible!" but it's not. What he spouts is his interpretation of what the Bible says. It's like he reads the Bible and the weird crap he says is "in the Bible" is just a description of the bizarro pictures he gets in his head when he reads the Bible. As I said, I try to give him a wide berth, but he consistently posts weird crap about the Bible and I'm concerned people will think this is just "how Christians are".
Originally posted by @divegeesterHmmm, I can agree with this. I think.
I think is possible and acceptable to use the phase “biblical perspective” when one has be discussing something from a “secular perspective”; that is to introduce a generalise biblical perspective which is recognised as being mainstream to provide context. However I don’t think it is possible when discussing spiritual concepts and their basis in scriptu ...[text shortened]... e in “Google Earth” and then being in the detail in “street view”. If that allalogy makes sense.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemYeah, that's what I got from it, too.
It makes sense, I think. You are saying that the term is useful at a broad enough scope.
Narrow it down any, and it can't help but become "individual" rather than "Biblical". I think the Bible is meant to speak to everyone on their level. The best way to approach the Bible is to spend some time honestly reflecting on how what you are reading applies in your own life, and in this way, it's all individual.
11 Jan 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNice to get a non Christian perspective. The spiritually blind certainly have valid opinions.
Right back at you.
Originally posted by @suziannePerhaps I will not be found righteous, but you definitely will not. Of course I am assuming that the Bible is actually true based on the words it contains.
Why do you?
Anyone who claims sexual immorality is not immorality definitely follows a gospel other than the one in the Bible.
Originally posted by @eladarFortunately, salvation is not some kind of competition. Otherwise, we'd ALL fall short.
Perhaps I will not be found righteous, but you definitely will not. Of course I am assuming that the Bible is actually true based on the words it contains.
Anyone who claims sexual immorality is not immorality definitely follows a gospel other than the one in the Bible.
11 Jan 18
Originally posted by @suzianneWho said it is a competition? Certainly I never said it is.
Fortunately, salvation is not some kind of competition. Otherwise, we'd ALL fall short.
Jesus is the one who claimed sexual immoralitt is a sign of rejecting God. Since you embrace sexual immorality obviously you reject God worshipping Satan who you call Jesus.