Originally posted by googlefudgebecause i can read body language, facial expressions, emphatic gestures etc etc generally people are politely disinterested, apathetic i would say. The ones that are bothered go on a rant or slam the door, had it happen to me a handful of times in twenty years. I don't give any grief and i don't take any either.
How do you know you were not a bother?
How do you know that they were not going 'and good riddance' ect as
soon as the door was shut?
Being polite doesn't precluded being bothered.
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21 Jan 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI think you are using a different usage of the word bothered than normal
because i can read body language, facial expressions, emphatic gestures etc etc generally people are politely disinterested, apathetic i would say. The ones that are bothered go on a rant or slam the door, had it happen to me a handful of times in twenty years. I don't give any grief and i don't take any either.
people do.
You can be bothered by a fly buzzing around without going into screaming
abdabs about it.
Just because they were 'nice' to you and polite and 'apathetic' doesn't
mean that they were not bothered by your visit.
Being bothered by someone doesn't require that you be pissed off by them.
21 Jan 14
Originally posted by googlefudgeyes you can, but the fly is not likely to read your body language thank you for your time and say goodbye wishing you a pleasant day, is it. Being bothered is a reflection not of the validity of the work but merely in a persons reaction to it, its nonsense to think otherwise.
I think you are using a different usage of the word bothered than normal
people do.
You can be bothered by a fly buzzing around without going into screaming
abdabs about it.
Just because they were 'nice' to you and polite and 'apathetic' doesn't
mean that they were not bothered by your visit.
Being bothered by someone doesn't require that you be pissed off by them.
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21 Jan 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes you can, but the fly is not likely to read your body language thank you for your time and say goodbye wishing you a pleasant day, is it. Being bothered is a reflection not of the validity of the work but merely in a persons reaction to it, its nonsense to think otherwise.
Being bothered is a reflection not of the validity of the work but merely in
a persons reaction to it, its nonsense to think otherwise.
Yes, it would be. However I never suggested otherwise.
I said some people are bothered by having JW's turn up at their doors.
I know plenty, and am one myself.
This refutes your notion that your going door to door is not a bother.
21 Jan 14
Originally posted by googlefudgeno it doesn't, because not all people get bothered, in fact for the vast majority its a pleasant experience, as i said before a few drops of dirty water do not spoil the ocean.Being bothered is a reflection not of the validity of the work but merely in
a persons reaction to it, its nonsense to think otherwise.
Yes, it would be. However I never suggested otherwise.
I said some people are bothered by having JW's turn up at their doors.
I know plenty, and am one myself.
This refutes your notion that your going door to door is not a bother.
21 Jan 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIn your 20 years of going door to door how manny people have you converted to your faith?
It isn't a bother, in almost twenty years going form house to house i can count on one hand those who have been bothered by it and usually they were mental to begin with, so no you are wrong, a few drips of dirty water to not spoil the ocean. Most people are actually very polite.
As for admitting i am wrong, its understood that as humans we are p ...[text shortened]... dmitting your mistakes would not be such a big deal for you as it self evidently purports to be.
22 Jan 14
Pudgenik,
We can love God the Father, the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit separately. They are expressions of God that we can have different loves for. A person may be fearful of God, but feel closer to the Lord Jesus. One may fear more the Holy Spirit, but not have so much love directly to Him. The way someone can think of how Each functions in their life can produce different thoughts about Them.
22 Jan 14
Originally posted by KingOnPointIt must be great having 3 gods.
Pudgenik,
We can love God the Father, the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit separately. They are expressions of God that we can have different loves for. A person may be fearful of God, but feel closer to the Lord Jesus. One may fear more the Holy Spirit, but not have so much love directly to Him. The way someone can think of how Each functions in their life can produce different thoughts about Them.
Originally posted by divegeesterIn all your years of hiding your light under a basket in your private and exclusive ministry, tell us how many people have you helped come to an accurate knowledge of Bible truth.
In your 20 years of going door to door how manny people have you converted to your faith?
As for me I have helped about a handful of people either directly or indirectly, but even if it was a single individual it was well worth it. As an organization we help 250,000 persons per annum qualify for baptism. We help about 5,000 persons to read, some of them entirely blind, we have established entire congregations for the deaf and hard of hearing our brothers and sisters learning sign language to do so, we have helped countless thousands give up addictions to abusive substances, alcohol and drugs and some to overcome adverse circumstances like abject poverty and prostitution. How many have you helped in your private and exclusive ministry? Do tell
Originally posted by RJHindsI know you have a field to sell, a business to attend to. . . .your personal feelings are paramount to all other considerations
Like I said, I don't feel the calling to do such things, excuse or not.
The Parable of the Wedding Feast
And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son, and sent his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding feast, but they would not come. Again he sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, “See, I have prepared my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves have been slaughtered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding feast.”’ But they paid no attention and went off, one to his farm, another to his business, while the rest seized his servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them. The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy. Go therefore to the main roads and invite to the wedding feast as many as you find.’ And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good. So the wedding hall was filled with guests.
“But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ For many are called, but few are chosen.”
22 Jan 14
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, All of God's children are important to me.
You seem like you are content to just allow people to deceive others with false teachings without challenge. So are false teachings to you are just silly thoughts that don't really matter?
I go to all places of worship, teaching, preaching if you will. And i will continue till the day i die. It is what I like doing and what the Father has sent me to do.
22 Jan 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI am not a JW. In my agruments i try to explain, what part of God is not God. When a person believes in a singular God, JW, Jew and others. When you love God, you love all of what God is. That is all that matters.
In all your years of hiding your light under a basket in your private and exclusive ministry, tell us how many people have you helped come to an accurate knowledge of Bible truth.
As for me I have helped about a handful of people either directly or indirectly, but even if it was a single individual it was well worth it. As an organization we hel ...[text shortened]... rty and prostitution. How many have you helped in your private and exclusive ministry? Do tell
Love God with all your heart,... , you know the rest. and love your neighbor as yourself.
I love all the things you are doing. I look forward to playing chess with you in heaven. But like sonhouse, i don't think you'll want to play much chess. You'll be like a kid in a candy store.
22 Jan 14
Originally posted by KingOnPointYes you are right.
Pudgenik,
We can love God the Father, the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit separately. They are expressions of God that we can have different loves for. A person may be fearful of God, but feel closer to the Lord Jesus. One may fear more the Holy Spirit, but not have so much love directly to Him. The way someone can think of how Each functions in their life can produce different thoughts about Them.
I know the Father. I recognize His voice. He hears me and i Him.
I am deeply in love with the Father. He Father has said to me that, He and i are one. But i am no god.
I know Jesus and worship Him. I recognize His voice. He hears me and i Him as well. His voice is different than the Fathers. My love is still in the Father.
I know the Holy Spirit. I recognize when the Holy Spirit moves in me, and It's gifts are strong.
Yet I know the Trinity as well. It's voice is all together different than the others. The Trinity i recognize, yet is a mystery to me.
I fear none of Them, even when i'm stupid. (i just ignore, until i can't stand the Angels pestering me.ha ha)
Originally posted by PudgenikI plan on living forever on a paradise earth, i have no desire to go to heaven, but i wish you well if you have the calling to be one of the 144,000 who will rule with Christ and make up the heavenly government and to serve as Kings and priests.
I am not a JW. In my agruments i try to explain, what part of God is not God. When a person believes in a singular God, JW, Jew and others. When you love God, you love all of what God is. That is all that matters.
Love God with all your heart,... , you know the rest. and love your neighbor as yourself.
I love all the things you are doing. I look forw ...[text shortened]... e sonhouse, i don't think you'll want to play much chess. You'll be like a kid in a candy store.
'For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth. Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more, You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace'. Psalm 37:9-11