A Jehovah's Witness contradiction or plain hypocrisy?

Originally posted by divegeester
possibly. I'm not contending that there are reasons in the Bible to remove people from a church congregation. Stop hiding.

If someone leaves your church (completely) to john another denomination for example, are they shunned?

too right, they have become like the sow who was cleaned up and then returned to the mire! they have set a bad example by their conduct and are rightly disfellowshipped! Peter mentions the very fact,

The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:22.

how will you explain that? they are once again touching the unclean thing, Babalyon the great, ouch.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
How do you find out if someone is being sexually immoral?

If one does not believe in God and understands he see's all and will bring all to the light, it's hard to explain. Correction: It's hard to get that person to understand...

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
too right, they have become like the sow who was cleaned up and then returned to the mire! they have set a bad example by their conduct and are rightly disfellowshipped! Peter mentions the very fact,

The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:22.

how will you explain that? they are once again touching the unclean thing, Babalyon the great, ouch.

Peter mentions someone leaving the JW organisation?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
How do you find out if someone is being sexually immoral?

i don't find out unless they are unrepentant and they are publicly reproved, they might have made a mistake and fessed up and its dealt with in confidence and i will never know.

Originally posted by galveston75
If one does not believe in God and understands he see's all and will bring all to the light, it's hard to explain.

Nice cop out.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Peter mentions someone leaving the JW organisation?

not in those exact terms, but in principle yes.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Nice cop out.

See my correction......

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i don't find out unless they are unrepentant and they are reproved, they might have made a mistake and fessed up and its dealt with in confidence and i will never know.

So how do you know that 'sexual immorality' is the biggest cause of people being disfellowshipped if all matters are dealt in confidence?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So we are at least agreed the practice is scriptural, thank you.

Of course the "practice" may vary from scripture on a case by case basis, but I believe the theoretical basis is Biblical.

That is, if we assume the deciders can err or do mischief in their disposition of a case.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
too right, they have become like the sow who was cleaned up and then returned to the mire! they have set a bad example by their conduct and are rightly disfellowshipped! Peter mentions the very fact,

The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:22.

how will you explain that? they are once again touching the unclean thing, Babalyon the great, ouch.

Thank you for finally admitting it.

Of course you will hold the pretence that this simple freedom of choice of where to seek God and fellowship somehow warrants the subsequent abuse you and the other bullies will dish out on the poor person.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So how do you know that 'sexual immorality' is the biggest cause of people being disfellowshipped if all matters are dealt in confidence?

its been mentioned at conventions dealing with proper etiquette with regard to the opposite sex.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
not in those exact terms, but in principle yes.

He doesn't mention the JW organisation does he?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So how do you know that 'sexual immorality' is the biggest cause of people being disfellowshipped if all matters are dealt in confidence?

My father was an elder for decades and he said that was the largest issue by far. It's a strong pull for humans.

Originally posted by divegeester
Thank you for finally admitting it.

Of course you will hold the pretence that this simple freedom of choice of where to seek God and fellowship somehow warrants the subsequent abuse you and the other bullies will dish out on the poor person.

nope we are under duress to keep our congregations clean from these bad examples of faithlessness. Interesting was the guy I mentioned earlier, he dissociated himself, went to another church for a while, realised it was an empty facade, eventually claimed he was an atheist and has now left his wife and young family, faithless person. we were right to kick his ilk from our congregation, he was, 'not of our sort'.

Originally posted by divegeester
Thank you for finally admitting it.

Of course you will hold the pretence that this simple freedom of choice of where to seek God and fellowship somehow warrants the subsequent abuse you and the other bullies will dish out on the poor person.

Yeah right, you finally figured out. Were all a buch of bullies...Geeeeez.