26 May 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou twisted that up pretty good ToO.
[b]Sure, I have pride issues.
Matthew 18
2And He called a child to Himself and set him before them, 3and said, “Truly I say to you, unless you change and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. 4“Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
"The truth will make you free" w ...[text shortened]... u are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
You can become as much like a child as you want, but if you don't know the Jesus of the Bible, and His true identity, you will never enter the kingdom of God.
Be as childlike as you want. It won't save you.
Try to read and comprehend this. The topic of discussion is about the true identity of Jesus Christ. Not about becoming like a child.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonI don't think the word 'sinner' has any real value when asked to a non-theist.
Ok. Here's the first test question.
Are you a sinner?
26 May 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneWhat are your thoughts on this matter...?
The following is taken from an interview with a prosecutor from a documentary about a team of investigators that seek to prove the innocence of those wrongfully convicted.
In this particular case, four people were shot execution style in a bowling alley. The individual convicted had a history of mental health issues and confessed to the crime. However ...[text shortened]... approach be allowed to hold a position that can have such a large impact on the lives of others?
26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeExplains why there are non-theists.
I don't think the word 'sinner' has any real value when asked to a non-theist.
Sin is the transgression of the law of God.
The first commandment is to love God.
No God - no accountability.
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26 May 18
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From digging around the website:
"The Upper Room® is a global ministry dedicated to supporting the spiritual life of Christians seeking to know and experience God more fully. From its beginnings in 1935 as a daily devotional guide, The Upper Room has grown to include publications, programs, prayer support, and other resources to help believers of all ages and denominations move to a deeper level of faith and service. "
Parent organization: Discipleship Ministries
Headquarters location: Nashville, TN
Founded: 1935
Publication types: Magazines, books
Discipleship Ministries, formerly known as the General Board of Discipleship, is one of 13 international agencies, boards and commissions of The United Methodist Church. Wikipedia
26 May 18
Originally posted by @js357But how many professing Christians read the Bible?
From digging around the website:
"The Upper Room® is a global ministry dedicated to supporting the spiritual life of Christians seeking to know and experience God more fully. From its beginnings in 1935 as a daily devotional guide, The Upper Room has grown to include publications, programs, prayer support, and other resources to help believers of all ages ...[text shortened]... international agencies, boards and commissions of The United Methodist [b]Church. Wikipedia[/b]
LifeWay Research.
NASHVILLE, Tenn.— Americans have a positive view of the Bible. And many say the Christian scriptures are filled with moral lessons for today.
However, more than half of Americans have read little or none of the Bible.
Less than a quarter of those who have ever read a Bible have a systematic plan for reading the Christian scriptures each day. And a third of Americans never pick it up on their own, according to a new study from Nashville-based LifeWay Research.
Small wonder many church leaders worry about biblical illiteracy, said Scott McConnell, executive director of LifeWay Research.
“Most Americans don’t know first-hand the overall story of the Bible—because they rarely pick it up,” McConnell said. “Even among worship attendees less than half read the Bible daily. The only time most Americans hear from the Bible is when someone else is reading it.”
LifeWayResearch.com
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeOne who transgresses divine law. You previously claimed to have no notion of divine law. Do you have a notion of it now?
I don't think the word 'sinner' has any real value when asked to a non-theist.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonHow many layers of interpretation are there between a person and what they say is the ultimate source of guidance for their lives? How much distortion occurs (intentional or not)?
But how many professing Christians read the Bible?
LifeWay Research.
NASHVILLE, Tenn.— Americans have a positive view of the Bible. And many say the Christian scriptures are filled with moral lessons for today.
However, more than half of Americans have read little or none of the Bible.
Less than a quarter of those who have ever read a Bible ha ...[text shortened]... e most Americans hear from the Bible is when someone else is reading it.”
LifeWayResearch.com
Originally posted by @secondsonYou wrote:
You twisted that up pretty good ToO.
You can become as much like a child as you want, but if you don't know the Jesus of the Bible, and His true identity, you will never enter the kingdom of God.
Be as childlike as you want. It won't save you.
Try to read and comprehend this. The topic of discussion is about the true identity of Jesus Christ. Not about becoming like a child.
<<"The truth will make you free" when you learn the truth about the true identity of Jesus Christ. >>
But Jesus said:
<<"The truth will make you free" IF "you abide in [His] word". >>
Jesus did not say:
<<"'The truth will make you free' when you learn the truth about the true identity of Jesus Christ". >>
Clearly you are the one who has it "twisted..up pretty good".
Also Jesus made it clear that "unless you change and become [humble] like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven".
You've shown time and again that you don't really care what Jesus actually said or didn't say. All you seem able to do is regurgitate the "gospel" that you have been taught. A "gospel" that is not the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonMy point exactly sir. If 'sin' is a transgression against God, what relevance does it have to a person who doesn't believe in God?
Explains why there are non-theists.
Sin is the transgression of the law of God.
The first commandment is to love God.
No God - no accountability.
But it is erroneous to think an atheist is not accountable for his/her actions. You just need to find better terminology.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAccountable to whom? The police? What if an atheist knows he won’t get caught? His family? What if an atheist knows his family will never find out what he’s done?
My point exactly sir. If 'sin' is a transgression against God, what relevance does it have to a person who doesn't believe in God?
But it is erroneous to think an atheist is not accountable for his/her actions. You just need to find better terminology.
Who exactly is the atheist accountable to?
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIt’s interesting you dodged the question. Who is the atheist accountable to?
Sweden is 80% atheist. Imagine an entire country without morals! Oh, wait, they have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Huh, guess religion isn't that important after all and that man is only really accountable to his conscience.
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