25 Aug 19
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@bigdoggproblem saidWhy would the laws have to be changed for God to act in this universe? You can hit a pool ball, know where the ball is going to go due to all of the laws in nature, and if you have run the numbers correctly, it will go where you knew it would. That, however, doesn't mean at any time someone, or thing cannot alter the movement of the ball or stop it altogether. Doing that does not change the laws governing movement, it only shows that if it doesn't go where you knew it should something else occurred.
You see ... that is where I see your small-mindnessness.
The Creator would NEVER change his own perfect laws of Physics.
@kellyjay saidAs analogies go, this is a dud.
Why would the laws have to be changed for God to act in this universe? You can hit a pool ball, know where the ball is going to go due to all of the laws in nature, and if you have run the numbers correctly, it will go where you knew it would. That, however, doesn't mean at any time someone, or thing can alter the movement of the ball or stop it altogether. Doing that does n ...[text shortened]... ning movement, it only shows that if it doesn't go where you knew it should something else occurred.
25 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidAbsolutely, but only on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Fridays.
Views that are expressed in absolutes or relativism are at odds with each other when looking at how the world should be viewed. If we propose there are absolutes, this means somethings cannot be changed by culture or time, concerning right and wrong. If we say there is no such thing as an absolute, then all things are possible, and anything thought of as relative can be changed due to any whim given some justification.
25 Aug 19
@divegeester saidYes, they operate.
Are they really “laws” though?
I often read about places in the universe “where the laws of physics don’t apply/operate”. Black holes for example.
We humans don't understand all of the "laws".
25 Aug 19
@bigdoggproblem saidI believe he understood why I had to put a smiley face on this, it falls on its face in self-contradiction. Even attempting to deny absolutes and truth cannot even stand in a sentence without contradiction.
Oh, dear.
Agreeing with whodey ... this is the first step on the Path to Ruin.
"We know that there are no absolute truths, it is the truth we know is absolutely true.
🙂"
25 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidWhy are you ignoring me this time?
I believe he understood why I had to put a smiley face on this, it falls on its face in self-contradiction. Even attempting to deny absolutes and truth cannot even stand in a sentence without contradiction.
"We know that there are no absolute truths, it is the truth we know is absolutely true.
🙂"
25 Aug 19
@kellyjay saidBut your supposed "absolutes" - when it comes to human interactions - are just your subjective opinions about how you think things ought to be.
Even attempting to deny absolutes and truth cannot even stand in a sentence without contradiction.
And to make it even more subjective, so to speak, your preferences and opinions - which you insist apply to every human - are merely rooted in your speculations and unilateral assertions about supernatural things seen through the prism provided by a package of religious doctrines and 'answers' you just so happen to have settled for.
To add to all this, you seem scarcely capable of debating the topic, even though you yourself chose to raise it.
26 Aug 19
@bigdoggproblem saidI agree.
Oh, dear.
Agreeing with whodey ... this is the first step on the Path to Ruin.
Mwhahahaha!!!
@bigdoggproblem saidAccepted; but then surely it is a little bit of a stretch to say we understand a creator’s mobilisation and limitations of such laws?
We humans don't understand all of the "laws".
