Absurd Escapism

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
But still not fair. I think only an all powerful, omniscient God can judge him fairly.

How is the same punishment for a man who murdered millions of people and a person who simply does not believe in Jesus be described as "fair"?

Originally posted by FMF
How is the same punishment for a man who murdered millions of people and a person who simply does not believe in Jesus be described as "fair"?

Because all sin is the same before God.

1 John 3:15

Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Because all sin is the same before God.

1 John 3:15

Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

You are dodging. You have used the word "fair" repeatedly. Now you are wriggling when asked to define it or to explain "fairness". You cannot simply commandeer the the word "fair" and attach it to something patently unfair and then claim it's "fair" because you've attached the word "fair" to it. How can exactly the same punishment for a mass murderer and a person "guilty" of a thoughtcrime be deemed to be "fair"?

Originally posted by FMF
You are dodging. You have used the word "fair" repeatedly. Now you are wriggling when asked to define it or to explain "fairness". You cannot simply commandeer the the word "fair" and attach it to something patently unfair and then claim it's "fair" because you've attached the word "fair" to it. How can exactly the same punishment for a mass murderer and a person "guilty" of a thoughtcrime be deemed to be "fair"?

Clearly you are in a position to judge what is 'fair' and what is 'not fair' when you claim that it is 'fair' for someone who has murdered millions of people to spend the rest of his days in the comfortable confines of prison.

When someone sins they sin against God. God has the perogative to judge them any which way he sees fit in any case.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Clearly you are in a position to judge what is 'fair' and what is 'not fair' when you claim that it is 'fair' for someone who has murdered millions of people to spend the rest of his days in the comfortable confines of prison.

Do you think it would be at the very least fairer if atheists, having been apprehended, also spent the rest of their days in the comfortable confines of prison?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Clearly you are in a position to judge what is 'fair' and what is 'not fair' when you claim that it is 'fair' for someone who has murdered millions of people to spend the rest of his days in the comfortable confines of prison.

Stop dancing around. You are being asked to define or explain your notion of "fairness". How can you crowbar 'the same punishment for everyone' into a definition of "fair"?

Originally posted by FMF
Do you think it would be at the very least[b] fairer if atheists, having been apprehended, also spent the rest of their days in the comfortable confines of prison?[/b]

Apprehended for what and by whom?

Originally posted by FMF
Stop dancing around. You are being asked to define or explain your notion of "fairness". How can you crowbar 'the same punishment for everyone' into a definition of "fair"?

Because if all sins are equal then equal punishment would fair in my opinion.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
When someone sins they sin against God. God has the perogative to judge them any which way he sees fit in any case.

This is not a coherent definition of either "justice" or "fairness". This is how criminal enterprises and totalitarian regimes behave. It's the stuff of dystopia.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Because if all sins are equal then equal punishment would fair in my opinion.

How can declaring that an honest and sincere lack of belief, on one hand, and the industrial scale murder of millions of human beings, on the other, are "equal" be credibly described as "fair"?

Originally posted by FMF
This is not a coherent definition of either "justice" or "fairness". This is how criminal enterprises and totalitarian regimes behave. It's the stuff of dystopia.

According to your subjective opinion of 'justice' and 'fairness'. If there is a God, he decides what is 'just' and 'fair'. Not you. Live with it.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Apprehended for what and by whom?

I don't know. You are the one claiming that murdering millions of people and not believing in the God are equally evil.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
According to your subjective opinion of 'justice' and 'fairness'. If there is a God, he decides what is 'just' and 'fair'. Not you. Live with it.

This is 'gangster logic' and a deliberate distortion of words that have commonly understood meanings. You are describing things which are inherently unfair and simply declaring them to be fair.

Originally posted by FMF
You are dodging. You have used the word "fair" repeatedly. Now you are wriggling when asked to define it or to explain "fairness". You cannot simply commandeer the the word "fair" and attach it to something patently unfair and then claim it's "fair" because you've attached the word "fair" to it. How can exactly the same punishment for a mass murderer and a person "guilty" of a thoughtcrime be deemed to be "fair"?

Assuming God exists, who can better judge what is 'fair'? You or him?

Originally posted by FMF
I don't know. You are the one claiming that murdering millions of people and not believing in the God are equally evil.

Assuming God exists, who defines what is evil? You or him?