Originally posted by @romans1009Sorry, I misread your post. I assumed you were just being a complete tool yet again.
<Which question are you saying I didn't answer?>
You answered it after that post and I was thanking you for doing so. Or can you not accept my thanks without wanting to argue?
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfYes. Authentic. That's what we want. Absolutely.
I think there may be a deity but no human claims about revelations of its instructions, promises, threats etc. have struck me as being authentic.
I'm not sure I really want to go this way in this public forum, and I'm not saying I want to go private either, but I would ask you this; when you did believe, as you have claimed you did, was it authentic belief, or was it because of some pressure to conform?
Was your experience with the risen Lord Jesus Christ unauthentic? If so, what makes you so sure that what you're experiencing now is authentic?
I have to be careful now not to bend you too far. But did you not receive the spirit upon your initial experience when Jesus found you?
Don't freak out on me now, 😉
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11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfI was simply asking for a “Yes,” or “No.”
My answers to these questions are answered to my satisfaction on the first 35 pages of the still current "Evidence please" thread. Prior to that, this area has been discussed ad nauseam by me and others going back as long as I have been active here. I am not going to discuss it with you at your behest or for your entertainment.
Obviously you think it was invented, but my point was, why would 1st century humans invent a story so against the grain of what many thought an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God was like.
And before you say (or if you think) the story was based on Greek mythology, I’ve heard those claims, looked into them and they’re not credible. May be worth a separate thread, as “Christianity is based on Greek mythology” is quite a hobby horse for atheists.
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @secondsonIt certainly felt authentic to me at the time and I believed it to be authentic.
I'm not sure I really want to go this way in this public forum, and I'm not saying I want to go private either, but I would ask you this; when you did believe, as you have claimed you did, was it authentic belief, or was it because of some pressure to conform?
Was your experience with the risen Lord Jesus Christ unauthentic? If so, what makes you so sure that what you're experiencing now is authentic?
Originally posted by @romans1009I don't have much respect for you. Just so you know.
No problem. I appreciate your apology, even if it was made with some pool whizzing.
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @secondsonNot interested.
I have to be careful now not to bend you too far. But did you not receive the spirit upon your initial experience when Jesus found you?
Don't freak out on me now, 😉
Originally posted by @romans1009Like I said, my answers to your questions are answered to my own satisfaction and on my own terms on the first 35 pages of the still current "Evidence please" thread. I am not interested in your “Yes” or “No” reductionism.
I was simply asking for a “Yes,” or “No.”
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Obviously you think it was invented, but my point was, why would 1st century humans invent a story so against the grain of what many thought an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God was like.
And before you say (or if you think) the story was based on Greek mythology, I’ve heard those claims, looked into them and they’re not credible. May be worth a separate thread, as “Christianity is based on Greek mythology” is quite a hobby horse for atheists.
Talk to another non-believer about it.
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11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfWould you care to describe how you came to believe in Jesus Christ? What were the circumstances, how long did you believe, what prompted you to not believe and was the transition to disbelief gradual or sudden?
It certainly felt authentic to me at the time and I believed it to be authentic.
I realize these may be questions that are too personal but since we’re all anonymous on here, I didn’t see the harm in asking.
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11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfI already suspect I know the answer to the Yes/No question, but was curious about why, so the Yes/No part was just to affirm what I already suspected.
Like I said, my answers to your questions are answered to my own satisfaction and on my own terms on the first 35 pages of the still current "Evidence please" thread. I am not interested in your “Yes” or “No” reductionism.
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Not interested in talking to you - Romans1009 - about it. You have done no harm in asking. Thank you for anticipating that this would perhaps be my response with your words above.
I realize these may be questions that are too personal but since we’re all anonymous on here, I didn’t see the harm in asking.
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11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfNo reason to get saucy. If you have a full bladder and don’t want to discuss substance, feel free to start whizzing in the pool again.
[b]Obviously you think it was invented, but my point was, why would 1st century humans invent a story so against the grain of what many thought an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God was like.
And before you say (or if you think) the story was based on Greek mythology, I’ve heard those claims, looked into them and they’re not credible. May be worth a ...[text shortened]... ek mythology” is quite a hobby horse for atheists.
Talk to another non-believer about it.[/b]
I’ve got to go anyway.
Have a great day!
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009If you are, as you say, curious about "why", then read the ongoing thread that I mentioned. That you already suspect that you know what I have written there is duly noted.
I already suspect I know the answer to the Yes/No question, but was curious about why, so the Yes/No part was just to affirm what I already suspected.