ALL MEN, Not some, Not Christians Only ... ALL

@suzianne said
Clearly, the Gospel of Rajk says that it means whatever Rajk wants it to mean.

The gospel of rajk999 consists of Matthew 7-9 and can be summarized thusly:

Ye shall do good works and Jesus shall judge.

@kellyjay said
What being justified in Christ means, I think the scripture is clear.

Luke 18:14
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

Romans 2:13
For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who wil ...[text shortened]... God (there is none but Jesus) they would have no deed to be justified because they are already just.

You are a very confused man. Here you quote two contradictory passages and you dont even know it

Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

Romans 3:20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

One says doers of the law will be justified, The other says nobody will be justified by the law. And the fact that you quote all these passages means that you have failed to understand what this thread is about. It is about the work of Jesus Christ on the cross, and what His death and resurrection accomplished. It accomplished the justification of the whole world.

It accomplished this .. because Christ died the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  Nobody has to do anything, It is free. The is what saved by Grace means. This is what it means when Paul says you cannot work for this justification. Jesus did the work. The imputed sin brought into the world by the sin of Adam was removed. This is what it means by .. the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life though Christ Jesus. .. The sin of Adam brought death, but Jesus brought eternal life to the world.

From this justification came several groups of people:
1. Christians who profess faith in Christ, and who live according to the commandments of Christ. These are the Elect of God, who will reign with Christ
2. Christians who profess faith in Christ but continue to live in sin. These will be cast out of the Kingdom of God
3. All other people who keep the commandments. These do not rule with Christ, but are raised and judged and rewarded according to their works after the millenium
4. All other people who live in sin. These are cast out and desstroyed

All of mankind is justified by the death of Christ, and all of mankind will face judgment

An elite class of Christians will be the first beneficiaries of Christ's death. They dont die. They have eternal life. They are protected from sin and damnation. They get what they ask for. They escape the tribulation. Contrary to what the churches preach, all Christians are not in this category.

Justification is for all. Eternal life is for a chosen few.

@rajk999 said
You are a very confused man. Here you quote two contradictory passages and you dont even know it

Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

Romans 3:20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

...[text shortened]... ians are not in this category.

Justification is for all. Eternal life is for a chosen few.

There is nothing contradictory about those passages, and I'm quite aware of the meaning; thank you. Suppose you are going to rely on the law. In that case, you must keep it all, those that do that will be righteous by actions and inactions according to the law, but and its all of the difference, none of us can, no one can keep the whole law without breaking it so none of us will ever be good enough according to the law. God knows this, and this is why grace was given to us; it is beyond our abilities to get right with God on our own, so grace through faith we can receive God's righteousness by giving up our own, laying down our lives to take up His.

Your gospel is that God justifies those He throws into hell.

Scripture says otherwise.

Romans 5:1

Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

@kellyjay said

Your gospel is that God justifies those He throws into hell.

Scripture says otherwise.

Romans 5:1

Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Typical cherry-picking nonsense. This is why Christians like you are lost and talk so much nonsense. Read the whole of Pauls letter to any of the churches. Paul travelled to many churches and all contained the same thing.
1. Profess faith and accept Christ who died and saved them
2. Keep the commandments and live righteously
3. Those who do that will get eternal life
4 Those who live in sin will be cast out

Yes God saved and justified them but they chose to go back into a life of sin. They will be destroyed.

@rajk999 said
Typical cherry-picking nonsense. This is why Christians like you are lost and talk so much nonsense. Read the whole of Pauls letter to any of the churches. Paul travelled to many churches and all contained the same thing.
1. Profess faith and accept Christ who died and saved them
2. Keep the commandments and live righteously
3. Those who do that will get eternal life
4 ...[text shortened]... God saved and justified them but they chose to go back into a life of sin. They will be destroyed.

If you are in the world, you are in the world, and if you belong to Christ, you belong to Christ. If you abide in Christ, you are not going back into the world; you are mixing those who are faithful to those who are not.

@kellyjay said
If you are in the world, you are in the world, and if you belong to Christ, you belong to Christ. If you abide in Christ, you are not going back into the world; you are mixing those who are faithful to those who are not.

More church nonsense. Paul in addressing all the, saved by grace, born-again, sanctified by the blood of Christ, justified Christians, with the Holy Spirit, who are redeemed and regenerated and all the things you love to boast about, you have Christ, you have the Spirit of God, you belong to God and Christ, you abide in Christ blah blah blah....... that

IF YOU DO NOT LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO BE CAST OUT

Who was Paul addressing?

@rajk999 said
More church nonsense. Paul in addressing all the, saved by grace, born-again, sanctified by the blood of Christ, justified Christians, with the Holy Spirit, who are redeemed and regenerated and all the things you love to boast about, you have Christ, you have the Spirit of God, you belong to God and Christ, you abide in Christ blah blah blah....... that

IF YOU DO NOT LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO BE CAST OUT

Who was Paul addressing?

If we have the righteousness of God, we are walking in His righteousness. If you don’t have the righteousness of God, you are walking in that. Jesus was very clear He is the Way no one comes to the Father but by Him. He doesn’t justify someone to cast them into hell, those who are not His are not justified they had the right to be, but sin not Christ is what they loved.

@kellyjay said
If we have the righteousness of God, we are walking in His righteousness. If you don’t have the righteousness of God, you are walking in that. Jesus was very clear He is the Way no one comes to the Father but by Him. He doesn’t justify someone to cast them into hell, those who are not His are not justified they had the right to be, but sin not Christ is what they loved.

IF....

You are an IF man. IF men dont speak clearly. You speak with a forked tongue

@rajk999 said
IF....

You are an IF man. IF men dont speak clearly. You speak with a forked tongue

You have Jesus justifying the guilty and throwing them into hell afterwards. I am telling you that the scriptures don’t teach that, if you justified, you are justified. You would have us justified and condemned which is a contradiction.

@kellyjay said
You have Jesus justifying the guilty and throwing them into hell afterwards. I am telling you that the scriptures don’t teach that, if you justified, you are justified. You would have us justified and condemned which is a contradiction.

Your church preaches nonsense. Read the opening post.

Justification is the process of removing the sin of Adam which was imputed to all men. Jesus died so that this imputed sin of Adam will be cancelled so that ALL MEN can be justified unto life. This is what is called the free gift.

Some choose to ignore it and they are cast out
Some live righteously and they get eternal life

Justification is for ALL... not some like your church preaches

@rajk999 said
Your church preaches nonsense. Read the opening post.

Justification is the process of removing the sin of Adam which was imputed to all men. Jesus died so that this imputed sin of Adam will be cancelled so that ALL MEN can be justified unto life. This is what is called the free gift.

Some choose to ignore it and they are cast out
Some live righteously and they get eternal life

Justification is for ALL... not some like your church preaches

Justification is for all men, without exception, but like all free gifts you have to receive them for they to be yours and some don’t want anything to do with God.

@kellyjay said
Justification is for all men, without exception, but like all free gifts you have to receive them for they to be yours and some don’t want anything to do with God.

Wrong. A free gift is something you have in your possession. Its given to you. There is nothing you have to do to get it... you have it already Justification is a free gift of God to ALL MEN, by sending Jesus to die. Free .. nothing to do.

Eternal life is not a free gift. There are no references in the bible about eternal life being a FREE GIFT. Eternal life is a gift of God. It is NOT A FREE GIFT. . Nobody gets eternal life without keeping the commandments. Not even the thief on the cross so dont argue that one.

And you will continue to confuse two distinct groups of people. Saved, born again Christians, is a elite group, who live righteously and keep the commandments. They are chosen, predestined to rule with Christ. Their names are in the book of life. They are the sheep of Christ. They will rule with Christ in the millenium.

Not everyone who get eternal life will be in that group.

@rajk999 said
Wrong. A free gift is something you have in your possession. Its given to you. There is nothing you have to do to get it... you have it already Justification is a free gift of God to ALL MEN, by sending Jesus to die. Free .. nothing to do.

Eternal life is not a free gift. There are no references in the bible about eternal life being a FREE GIFT. [b]Eternal life ...[text shortened]... will rule with Christ in the millenium.

Not everyone who get eternal life will be in that group.

Nonsense if you offer me something and I say no and refuse to take, it isn’t mine.

@kellyjay said
Nonsense if you offer me something and I say no and refuse to take, it isn’t mine.

There is nothing to accept, nothing to take. People are dead, some are not born. Grace of God needs no acceptance. It is done.

@rajk999 said
There is nothing to accept, nothing to take. People are dead, some are not born. Grace of God needs no acceptance. It is done.

You really need to read the whole Bible.