@ghost-of-a-duke saidDo you mean to "diagnose" somebody "clinically" like a psychiatrist might? Why would anyone ask you to do that?
I would not try to diagnose somebody as deluded but certainly recognise when somebody is not.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThis is not true. I have been using delusional in its everyday sense so when I describe the story about the CPR on the pavements as delusional, I do not mean "wrong or misconstrued", I mean a ludicrous self-aggrandizing tall tale [which she has only thought better of now, years later, and so has decided to dial it back]. Quite different from simply "wrong or misconstrued".
Perhaps you missed it. For FMF delusional is just an everyday word, no different than wrong or misconstrued.
An alternative might be that she just fabricated it quite deliberately but, given the angry, scornful blithering and the self-obsessed paranoid nature of so much of her posting, I think she was being deluded rather than telling a cold-blooded, calculated lie. As I say, it was behaviour that was quite different from simply being "wrong or misconstrued".
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNonsense. It is "significant" if one considers my spare use of it. I have only used it in connection with a small handful of posters here over the last 15+ years. It's not a word I would use lightly.
FMF has already rowed back on the whole delusion thing, not meaning it in any significant sense. It was just a throw away word with no depth to it.
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@suzianne saiddivegeester doesn't buy my angel story because he doesn't believe in God.
It's not difficult to know at all. He doesn't buy my angel story because he doesn't believe in God. You probably could have figured that on your own if you didn't have all your concern wrapped up in making my accounts look ridiculous. People should remember this. I've never lied about myself in these forums. My accounts are what happened. Your accounts, on the other ha ...[text shortened]... he game, all I want from you, indeed, all I've ever wanted from you, is to just stop lying about me.
Is that so?
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@divegeester said
Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist.
I consider this a lot. Nevertheless I have a faith anyway.
In light of this declaration that your theistic beliefs render you delusional, I don't find it surprising that people have questioned how authentic your expressed Christian beliefs are. - You are effectively saying your belief in God is based on a delusion.
20 Sep 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI couldn’t care less how authentic other people think my Christian beliefs are. Do you think that in posting what you have said somehow validates their scorn?
@divegeester said
Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist.
I consider this a lot. Nevertheless I have a faith anyway.
In light of this declaration that your theistic beliefs render you delusional, I don't find it surprising that people have questioned how authentic your expressed Christian beliefs are. - You are effectively saying your belief in God is based on a delusion.
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@divegeester saidIf you are not clear yourself about your beliefs, how can others be?
I couldn’t care less how authentic other people think my Christian beliefs are. Do you think that in posting what you have said somehow validates their scorn?
20 Sep 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI am perfectly clear on my own beliefs; I’m not interested in what other people think of me or my application of them.
If you are not clear yourself about your beliefs, how can others be?
I am quite happy to be questioned on what I do and don’t believe, what I accept in mainstream (or otherwise Christian doctrine), what I reject, what I am unclear on and why.
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@divegeester saidBut you wrote:
I am perfectly clear on my own beliefs; I’m not interested in what other people think of me or my application of them.
I am quite happy to be questioned on what I do and don’t believe, what I accept in mainstream (or otherwise Christian doctrine), what I reject, what I am unclear on and why.
"Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist..."
20 Sep 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidCorrect, I accept that holding theistic beliefs is perceived as being delusional.
But you wrote:
"Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist..."
What else have you got?
@fmf saidLook again.
divegeester doesn't buy my angel story because he doesn't believe in God.
Is that so?
My post, that you are replying to here, is TO @divegeester ABOUT @ghost-of-a-duke.
What I said was, "It's not difficult to know at all. He doesn't buy my angel story because he doesn't believe in God." He, speaking to @divegeester about @ghost-of-a-duke. Right after @divegeester said to @ghost-of-a-duke:
@divegeester said
As I said, “most” of her stories you claim to believe. It’s difficult to know which you really don’t believe when you are too busy white-knighting 🙂
Stop misrepresenting me.
@suzianne saidI don’t believe you because your claims about yourself and ludicrous and multiple, and you are a pathological liar.
Look again.
My post, that you are replying to here, is TO @divegeester ABOUT @ghost-of-a-duke.
Stop misrepresenting me.
20 Sep 23
@divegeester saidVery funny, because by saying this, you show that YOU are a liar.
I don’t believe you because your claims about yourself and ludicrous and multiple, and you are a pathological liar.
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@divegeester saidDon't forget about your uncanny superpower to detect pathological liars.
I don’t believe you because your claims about yourself and ludicrous and multiple, and you are a pathological liar.
It empowers you to accuse whoever you like without any fear of being wrong.