Originally posted by AgergI agree, so if all people of science agree on a point of fact that does not
I disagree; I'm infact arguing there is no correlation between number of subscribers to religion X and the plausibility of X; and so any logical person should reject this line of defence immediately.
The appeal to numbers is a red herring here.
make that point of fact any more true than one they disagree on if that is
the only thing we are talking about.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayNot so sure what you're saying here (I suspect you're trying to argue concensus of scientific opinion has as much clout as concensus of theistic opinion - if this is the case then I strongly disagree. The reason for this being that as an investigation into natural phenomenon, those in the field of science have, at least potentially, the facility to conduct valid inquiries, and can be well informed in their fields. The same is not true for theists conjecturing about the supernatural - as they have no tools or senses that can 'reliably' interact with the supernatural)
I agree, so if all people of science agree on a point of fact that does not
make that point of fact any more true than one they disagree on if that is
the only thing we are talking about.
Kelly
Originally posted by galveston75Christ is "the desire of all nations" . And out of the other paragraphs that you wrote I could not find very much truth.
6 “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land. 7 I will shake all nations, and what is desired by all nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory,’
So if this is speaking of Jesus, is this Jesus or his Father speaking this? Two things to consider is t he was already there preparing a place for the chosen ones, this does not apply to Jesus.
If you do not want to believe that Christ the Messiah is the desire of all the nations, don't believe it.
If you don't want to believe Christ is God Almighty incarnate, then don't believe it.
I think I may have been through John 14 and Christ's going to prepare a place for the disciples before with you.
I don't think I will go over that again with the same person.