22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidThanks for that answer.
Great question. If all religions believed the same, followed the bible the same, no it would matter.
Or if one doesn't see the need to do the things Jesus told his followers to do that most so called Christian religions don't teach their congregations that are actually commands from Jesus, then no.
Or if ones life in the future did not really matter then no, it proba ...[text shortened]... didn't see the need to teach Jesus commands to be no part of the world, then no it wouldn't matter.
It was illuminating.
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidWhat are you specifically wondering about? I will attempt to keep the discussion on scriptures if you want. With respect to why people behave I have no idea, could be some history or something else.
I know some here believe that they are saved. I do understand it is a very personal subject and one that most will become defensive over if they are questioned about. I have family members that have made that very clear to me over the years to the point they want nothing to do with me because I questioned them about it. I never approached them in a rude or in a correctiv ...[text shortened]... rom the bible why you are in a brief manner and could that position actually ever be lost? Thanks...
22 Feb 19
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@divegeester saidYour memory is faulty. So is your misapprehension of the degree of your "influence" with the site owners. This is why nothing was done about it. The prevailing attitude was "that's the way the forums are here, if you can't handle it, don't play". Admins turned a blind eye to the harassment he endured in this forum and others, giving both of you license to continue your unending harassment of others on this site. Is it as bad now as it was then? No, but almost.
I don’t remember you reporting FMF or alerting his posts for “harassing and bulling a sick old man”. Surely you would have done so if you had truly seen such a thing occurring...?
But all this is the last thing I want to spend my time on anymore. I can be more satisfactorily bored almost anywhere else. As I told your partner in crime, all that is not nearly as interesting as who this 3a is.
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidSo, are you claiming that there is no Judgement?
Really sinless? And who is that, yourself? The only sinless person to ever walk the planet was Jesus and that is why he was able to become our savior. His sinless sacrifice or ransom is for all of sinful mankind that we all, including you, that we inherited from Adam. Really, sinless? And no your dead wrong that is not the second death. The second death apply's to ones wh ...[text shortened]... th. And we twist the scriptures that I can show every one that speaks clearly of all I've just said?
That's some ego talking. Only from the mind of the JWs.
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidThat is some self-sanctimonious twaddle.
Great question. If all religions believed the same, followed the bible the same, no it would matter.
Or if one doesn't see the need to do the things Jesus told his followers to do that most so called Christian religions don't teach their congregations that are actually commands from Jesus, then no.
Or if ones life in the future did not really matter then no, it proba ...[text shortened]... didn't see the need to teach Jesus commands to be no part of the world, then no it wouldn't matter.
22 Feb 19
@suzianne saidIt is a lie, Suzianne. And you are part of it. I suspect that this "new" poster" who has appeared to make the accusation is perhaps the JW poster who chased me around accusing me of being a paedophile for several weeks.
I saw it myself, it's no lie.
However, I'm trying to not fulfill your fantasy of making every thread about you. Far more interesting is the question of who this 3a is.
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidAre you therefore saying, that the only people who will be in the afterlife will have been members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses church in this life?
Great question. If all religions believed the same, followed the bible the same, no it would matter.
Or if one doesn't see the need to do the things Jesus told his followers to do that most so called Christian religions don't teach their congregations that are actually commands from Jesus, then no.
Or if ones life in the future did not really matter then no, it proba ...[text shortened]... didn't see the need to teach Jesus commands to be no part of the world, then no it wouldn't matter.
22 Feb 19
@philokalia saidWhat are your thoughts on the Jehovah’s Witness cult?
You should bring it up separate from old forum drama as a topic to be discussed independently.
22 Feb 19
@philokalia saidWhat specifically did you find illuminating?
Thanks for that answer.
It was illuminating.
Based on that response by Galveston75, can you know tell the forum if it is possible to experience the afterlife without becoming a member of the Jehovah’s Witness church?
To Susan.....
Where did I say that?
I've got a question for you and I hope you'll answer it.
If you are saved and I'm assuming you are saying that because you are "saved" and cannot have the gift you think you've earned of being saved taken away, which would put you on the same same level as Jesus because he was sinless and was in a saved position.
If one is saved and sinless then that would make one like Jesus who would actually be alive today on the planet if he had either fought those who eventually killed him or if his Father had protected him and not let the Romans take him.
Are you saying or believe that in your saved position that you are like Jesus?
If you are saved from all sinning and now in the same position as Jesus, why are you growing old? Or get sick and yes will eventually die as an old person and all that comes with that issue?
You should be able to physically live forever if you are truly saved and do not sin because you are saved and that scripture I opened with that apparently doesn't apply to you. Please give me your thoughts on this and not just revert to your normal put downs and avoiding the questions...
22 Feb 19
@philokalia saidThanks. Jesus is who we should be seriously listening to with "all he said", not just the few popular scriptures that most lean on like "love your neighbor". We actually need to encompass all that those popular scriptures are including in what "loving your neighbor" means.
Thanks for that answer.
It was illuminating.
Or what "being no part of the world means".
The bible says that many or even most are just satisfied in having their "ears tickled" and not ever catch the meatier things of the bible.
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidYou are at least second generation JW, so here’s a simple honest question Galveston75...
Thanks. Jesus is who we should be seriously listening to with "all he said", not just the few popular scriptures that most lean on like "love your neighbor". We actually need to encompass all that those popular scriptures are including in what "loving your neighbor" means.
Or what "being no part of the world means".
The bible says that many or even most are just satisfied in having their "ears tickled" and not ever catch the meatier things of the bible.
Will a person be precluded from the afterlife if they are not a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses church?
22 Feb 19
@galveston75 saidIt’s astonishing! Several posters asking you the same question which you refuse to answer, now why would that be I wonder.
No. I believe I've answered that for all here. But only those who are doing his "will". Do you know what his "will" is?
If you answer by telling the truth as you see it, you will reveal your church as being a cult. Easier to cast others as demons and throw up the accusatory wall of defence.
Nothing changes.