07 Mar 17
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Originally posted by Great King RatDo you subscribe to the idea that (if) we cross off what seems clearly untrue or very likely to be untrue then try to work with what is left? What could be possible?
It's really entirely useless to talk to you people, isn't it? You just completely shut off your brain.
I just said I don't know where the universe came from, whether it always was or whether it was created. I DON'T KNOW.
But I'm not going to just claim something in the absence of knowledge.
There's a term for this but I can't for the life of me think of it right now
07 Mar 17
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Originally posted by divegeesterHow? Well that's the big question ,eh?
"God's all over the place" is more sensible to you, how?
you ever think you kinda know something but find it hard to actually put into words. Well it's like that. I know that's no answer at all, I'm just telling how I feel .
Moreover I subscribe to the idea (prolly more like "Exploring" rather than "subscribing" but whatever) that God's all over the place AND that there are gods all over the place.(all over the universe,etc.)
And I'm thinking there is no god just some form of "direct lighting" rather than any separate entity. Apparently we suffer from "indirect lighting" . So we are here to try to bring more light into this part of the universe. (make any sense to you? )
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwyou're one goofy cat.
Who's being coy? Everything in existence [b]is the evidence for a creator.
That's why atheism is a delusion, because it denies what is in the face of overwhelming evidence, and has the obtuse idea that it can deny the existence of a creator without a shred of evidence.
Atheism is a mental disorder, the product of a disturbed mind.
And let ...[text shortened]... further. If you're talking this personally, then you should reexamine your powers of perception.[/b]
Seriously you should be a bit more sympathetic to others mental health, and on that note I'll do the same
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipPatience can be used in other ways.
[b] Each of us has authority and responsibility to decide things for ourselves but these can be given away or taken away.
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It is true that each of us seems to have been bestowed with some authority and some responsibility.
IMO we won ...[text shortened]... ake of love and justice a final judgment occurs on this question of whether or not there is God.
It's a fine emotional tool for appreciating the quality rather than the quantity of life.
I think you think there is a final judgment because everyone has a final breath. Because (this) life is finite. Actually you probably don't think that , I'm just putting it out there,ok
Originally posted by josephwEvolution. Its idea is loosely thrown around as an absolute to all against God.
Why don't you all stop trying to blow smoke up my ass. We've been in this argument for years and years. Apparently a nerve has been exposed.
All you can do is deny the existence of a creator and try and lay a guilt trip on me for calling you out on being delusional. The evidence exists for intelligent design, but you have no evidence at all you can use to ...[text shortened]... old and lifeless eternity just one heartbeat away.
No God? An absolute lie. And you know it.
Science isn't against God, but for God. In many Christian churches it is taught that God created everything in 6 days.
To be honest, in the concept of God, He could have if He wanted to. However, science proves He did not. And as i often point out, why would an eternal being do things the easy way. To the credit of science, the formation of the planet, the movement of continents and the geo earth. Great.
The problem with the theory of evolution comes with animals. In the circles of scientists who preach evolution you will never find a micro-biologist. The concepts of evolution include that the simple organisms become more complex as time goes on. In micro-biology it has been proven to be the reverse.
Another problem with evolution is when we have a cut, with bleeding. The cell structure always returns to very similar patterns. If evolution were in progress why not another finger or a nose, the healing process would have some change even at a micro level, but it does not.
In the process of cloning, the only way humans can change the process is rearranging the sub structure.
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by karoly aczelDo you mean "the process of elimination"?
Do you subscribe to the idea that (if) we cross off what seems clearly untrue or very likely to be untrue then try to work with what is left? What could be possible?
There's a term for this but I can't for the life of me think of it right now
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by karoly aczelI have a much clearer idea of what you meant now, thanks.
How? Well that's the big question ,eh?
you ever think you kinda know something but find it hard to actually put into words. Well it's like that. I know that's no answer at all, I'm just telling how I feel .
Moreover I subscribe to the idea (prolly more like "Exploring" rather than "subscribing" but whatever) that God's all over the place AND that ...[text shortened]... we are here to try to bring more light into this part of the universe. (make any sense to you? )
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipOne indicator that would suggest that "irrefutable evidence" is available to support the religious claims you make would more more or less all humans being Christians.
Since anyone may say - "This is irrefutable evidence"
And anyone else can say "No, that evidence has been refuted"
how are we going to know with infallible authority that any evidence for anything has or has not been refuted?
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwI don't see how someone who is dead and gone - whose existence has ended - would sense things like "cold", how they would perceive what was and wasn't "empty", and how they could possibly be aware of "eternity". Do you have any evidence that dead people can sense/perceive/be aware of such things?
Why don't you be honest and admit you're trying to live in a vacuum, void of the very essence of life itself, with an empty, cold and lifeless eternity just one heartbeat away.
No God? An absolute lie. And you know it.
07 Mar 17
Originally posted by sonshipYes, it seems strange that a video containing such earth shattering information such as irrefutable evidence for God would not even mention it in its title.
The title of the video is of great significance?
Okay, So if Richard Dawkin's book is about irrefutable proof of Evolution making belief in God obsolete, one would think he would not have misnamed it "The God Delusion".
Irrefutable proof of evolution is hardly earth shattering information. Richard Dawkins did not present any new science whatsoever in his book. Besides, I can tell you haven't read it because that wasn't what it was about anyway.
So in passing he mentioned "irrefutable evidence".
Yes. One wonders why he only mentioned it in passing. It seems like he doesn't actually believe it himself.
So a case could be made that not all theists would call it irrefutable evidence.
You do know what the word 'irrefutable' means don't you?
Are you interested in good evidence enough to see a long video, some of which may contain good evidence for the existence of God ?
No. I already explained what my response was about. Did you read what I said? Read it again.
That would give an impression to me of stubbornness and denial to consider good arguments for an intelligence one might expect to be of a Creator God.
Yes, if you deliberately misinterpret what I say, make up wild motives for it, ignore any explanations, then you might get the wrong impression.
It would require a greater leap of something like "faith" for me to believe the DNA molecule is not the product of virtually unlimited intelligence. You might push the problem back a bit and say it is evidence of some higher intelligence perhaps of some alien mind/s.
I, on the other hand, don't need a leap of faith, because I have actually studied the subject.