Spirituality
05 Jan 23
06 Jan 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidShowing him exactly what was true caused him to harden his heart, it is a warning for everyone as well to not do that. Some simply don’t want to see and will not no matter what is shown them, the greater the truth revealed the harder their hearts become.
Christians often talk about human free will and how we get to choose and take responsibility for our actions. But where was the pharaoh's free will when God hardened his heart, leading him to ignore the warning delivered by Moses and to the suffering of the Egyptians?
Kelly won't answer this question directly and will obfuscate around it.
06 Jan 23
@divegeester saidWell done you, a question about God’s attributes and you reply about something He did without addressing any attributes. If I asked you what kind of person someone was, and you said he ate pancakes in your way of reasoning you would have answered the question. Small wonder some things go right over your head.
I do say so, I just did.
06 Jan 23
@kellyjay saidYour prickliness about this is quite bizarre.
Well done you, a question about God’s attributes and you reply about something He did without addressing any attributes. If I asked you what kind of person someone was, and you said he ate pancakes in your way of reasoning you would have answered the question. Small wonder some things go right over your head.
06 Jan 23
@divegeester saidIt is simply staying on point you apparently have no idea what that means. I ask about attributes of God, you respond about a point you pushed in another conversation which has nothing to do with attributes just God writting something on your heart.
Your prickliness about this is quite bizarre.
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@kellyjay saidTherefore we are also: good, righteous, just, holy, all-powerful, all-knowing, timeless without beginning or end, and unchanging -- but that doesn't seem quite right.
God is good, righteous, just, holy, all-powerful, all-knowing, timeless without beginning or end, and unchanging.
We were made in His image, thoughts?
Or maybe "made in His image" only means that we are invisible, just like Him -- drawing a distinction between us and our bodies.
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07 Jan 23
@fmf saidDo you talk this way to your Muslim neighbors?
This assertion seems to me to be a parochial and navel-gazing-driven bit of speculation.
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07 Jan 23
@kellyjay saidI would say the 99 Names of Allah of the Muslim tradition are also worthy of consideration and contemplation.
God is good, righteous, just, holy, all-powerful, all-knowing, timeless without beginning or end, and unchanging.
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07 Jan 23
@divegeester saidIf the cactus were less pickled, would its pricks be more tender?
Your prickliness about this is quite bizarre.
07 Jan 23
@kellyjay said@divegeester said
That something He does or an attribute?
He writes his laws on our hearts.
@kellyjay said
That something He does or an attribute?
Surely, the ability to do it and the desire to do it are both "attributes" of your God figure, right?
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07 Jan 23
@fmf saidThere might be something to this, starting with the Jewish mystical assertion that the Cosmos is made from the letters of the Torah, and following through to present-day scientific observations that we are essentially made of strings of molecular "letters" and bustling with "messages" internally.
According to the religious beliefs that you and divegeester share, one of "God's attributes" is his ability "to write his laws on our hearts".
The novelist Pat Conroy once stated: "Story is sacred."