10 Oct 20
@divegeester saidIt just took longer than you are intimating.
So you don’t believe that God created a man straight out of the dust of the earth as Genesis says?
@divegeester saidI could not disagree more.
Spirituality is a realm of the supernatural, perhaps the only realm. If there is no supernatural then there is no spirituality. One cannot deny the existence of the supernatural while claiming to hold to spirituality; that’s a contradiction.
10 Oct 20
@bigdoggproblem saidIs that a case you’re trying to make, or should readers just believe you?
I could not disagree more.
10 Oct 20
@divegeester saidHow about C) they may read some of my earlier posts in this very thread?
Is that a case you’re trying to make, or should readers just believe you?
10 Oct 20
@bigdoggproblem saidSo your case for there being a spirituality is that it’s not supernatural and is all about asking where did I come from etc?
How about C) they may read some of my earlier posts in this very thread?
10 Oct 20
@divegeester said"a spirituality"
So your case for there being a spirituality is that it’s not supernatural and is all about asking where did I come from etc?
interesting construction
say a little more?
@divegeester saidActually, I think there is a definite overlap with philosophy [please note the success of posters such as bbarr or LemonJello in the past]. Specifically: it deals with the part of humans that seeks transcendence - of/above/over the simple, mundane considerations of physical existence.
Spirituality relates to the spirit, the ghost.
It’s not another word for self awareness or philosophy of life.
Edit: and are not theistic writings, such as the book of Proverbs, chock full of life philosophy?
11 Oct 20
@divegeester saidI think a more practical and revealing application of the word "spirituality" is that it is the aspect of the human consciousness - and religious/philosophical activity attendant thereto - that perceives the existence or non-existence of "the ghost" [and what you refer to when you say "the spirit"] and/or the side of we humans - our human nature - that is curious and speculative about notions of "the ghost" and other conjecture about the role of the supernatural within reality. I realize the dictionary backs you and not me on this. But I am just trying to get at what is really going on when people talk about "spirituality" as being some sort of realm.
Spirituality relates to the spirit, the ghost.
11 Oct 20
@bigdoggproblem saidThe book of proverbs is philosophy. Spirituality is, as the word indicates, appertaining to the spirt which is a supernatural entity.
Actually, I think there is a definite overlap with philosophy [please note the success of posters such as bbarr or LemonJello in the past]. Specifically: it deals with the part of humans that seeks transcendence - of/above/over the simple, mundane considerations of physical existence.
Edit: and are not theistic writings, such as the book of Proverbs, chock full of life philosophy?
11 Oct 20
@fmf saidThere is a spectrum of definitions of “spirituality” and while many if not most refer to aspects such as human consciousness they all defer to the fact the spirituality appertains to the spirit and therefore the supernatural, why else would the word contain the prefix and subjective “spirit” which is indeed the ghost, the soul, the non temporal element of our being.
I think a more practical and revealing application of the word "spirituality" is that it is the aspect of the human consciousness - and religious/philosophical activity attendant thereto - that perceives the existence or non-existence of "the ghost" [and what you refer to when you say "the spirit"] and/or the side of we humans - our human nature - that is curious and speculative ...[text shortened]... to get at what is really going on when people talk about "spirituality" as being some sort of realm.
@bigdoggproblem saidSpirituality appertains to matters of the spirit. In order to have “a spirituality” one must accept that there is a “spirit”.
"a spirituality"
interesting construction
say a little more?
I find it interesting that some atheists are possessive over the term “spiritual” when they don’t believe in the supernatural, ie. they don’t accept that humans have a spirit.
