Best Jawill Post EVER

@thinkofone said
Originally posted by @thinkofone
C'mon jaywill. How can you so consistently get things so muddled up? Seriously, learn to read in context. Take a class or something. It'll help you to be able to understand not only other posters in this forum, but scripture as well.

ThinkOfOne champions Luke 4:14-21 as such a universally positive proclamation.

Actually ...[text shortened]... s positive (Luke 22a).

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/god-created-us.178526/page-8

I’ve gotten around to reading this in more detail tonight and I don’t see what your beef is with sonship’s understanding of this passage. It’s very clear and not at all ambiguous.

Jesus was tried by ordeal with Satan and came though. During that process Jesus used only scripture to answer Satan’s tricks and temptations. Jesus quotes the angels being sent to protect him which incidentally is exactly what happens in the second part of the chapter.

However your pinpointing this piece in where Jesus says “today in your hearing this scripture is fulfilled” is interesting, why do you pick on that particular piece I wonder. At that moment Jesus was declaring himself the Messiah but they didn’t hate him for it at that point did they, they hated him when he said they were not the poor and afflicted who would benefit. The people didn’t seem to mind him being claiming to be the messiah is was the Pharisees who were offended at that. No the people just wanted the good stuff.

The interesting thing for me in this chapter is how Jesus is tempted in the wilderness, overcomes and them immediately ministers and is protected by the angels mentioned in the first part of the chapter. This shows how Jesus was tested prior to his ministry, he was trained before going into battle.

@divegeester said
I’ve gotten around to reading this in more detail tonight and I don’t see what your beef is with sonship’s understanding of this passage. It’s very clear and not at all ambiguous.

Jesus was tried by ordeal with Satan and came though. During that process Jesus used only scripture to answer Satan’s tricks and temptations. Jesus quotes the angels being sent to protect h ...[text shortened]... ter. This shows how Jesus was tested prior to his ministry, he was trained before going into battle.

Not that you've given sufficient reason not to believe that this is not continuation of your trolling...

Your post doesn't seem to be very well thought out.

Your first paragraph seems to indicate that your intent is to show how jaywill has a correct understanding of Luke 4:16-21, but then you largely went off on a wider tangent than jaywill's tangent.

As another example you wrote, "Jesus quotes the angels being sent to protect him..." when actually it's the devil who refers to angels.

Another example is that then you wrote " At that moment Jesus was declaring himself the Messiah but they didn’t hate him for it at that point did they, they hated him when he said they were not the poor and afflicted who would benefit. The people didn’t seem to mind him being claiming to be the messiah is was the Pharisees who were offended at that. No the people just wanted the good stuff. "
"...they hated him when he said they were not the poor and afflicted who would benefit"? "Pharisees"? Where were those mentioned in Luke 4?

Anyway, if you're sincere about having a discussion about Luke 4:16-21, put together a well-thought-out response and I'll address it. Or even the "Best Jaywill Post EVER". Otherwise troll elsewhere.

During His earthly ministry Jesus set captives free.
He continued to set people free in His ministry from Heaven after His resurrection and ascension.

Here He set Paul free in His form as the Spirit of life.

"For the law of the Spirit of life has FREED me in Christ Jesus from the law of sins and of death." (Rom. 8:2)

During His continued MINISTRY as the Spirit, where His Spirit reigns there is FREEDOM.

"And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom." (2 Cor. 3:17)

This classic Hymn written after the resurrection and ascension of the Lord Jesus celebrates His continued ministry of FREEING people. It was written from the authors personal experience.

Made free! Made free! O captive!
Bound by the law of sin,
The law of life in Spirit
Will quicken you within.
And counting on the Spirit,
His life shall now control
The members of your body,
The portals of your soul.
2
Made free! Made free in Jesus:
For crucified with Him,
From center to circumf’rence,
He breaks the power of sin.
No longer act in body
As if it had no “law“;
His “law of life” must govern
All that ran wild before.
3
Made free! Made free in Jesus:
Deep planted in His death,
He liberates His life pow’r,
And breathes His Spirit’s breath.
Then waxing strong in spirit,
With force of quickening life;
The soul and body governed,
Its members cease from strife!
4
Made free! Made free in Jesus:
Joined to the Risen One,
By conflict prayer you triumph,
And claim His victory won.
Freed with His glorious freedom,
Above the darkness rife;
For now the law of sin and death
Is conquered by His life.

Music by: James William Elliott (1833-1915)

During His earthly ministry Jesus set captives free.
He continued to set people free in His ministry from Heaven after His resurrection and ascension.

Another classic Hymn about Jesus the Liberator setting believers FREE after His resurrection and ascension.
He sends His Holy Spirit into people's hearts to continue His Jubilee ministry of freeing men and woman today.

Once I was bound by sin’s galling fetters,
Chained like a slave I struggled in vain;
But I received a glorious freedom,
When Jesus broke my fetters in twain.

(chorus)
Glorious freedom, wonderful freedom,
No more in chains of sin I repine!
Jesus the glorious Emancipator,
Now and forever He shall be mine.
2
Freedom from all the carnal affections,
Freedom from envy, hatred and strife;
Freedom from vain and worldly ambitions.
Freedom from all that saddened my life.
3
Freedom from pride and all sinful follies,
Freedom from love and glitter of gold;
Freedom from evil temper and anger,
Glorious freedom, rapture untold.
4
Freedom from fear with all of its torments,
Freedom from care with all of its pain;
Freedom in Christ my blessed Redeemer,
He who has rent my fetters in twain.

Lyrics: Haldor Lillenas (1885-1959)
Music: Alfred Judson

@thinkofone said
Not that you've given sufficient reason not to believe that this is not continuation of your trolling...

Your post doesn't seem to be very well thought out.

Your first paragraph seems to indicate that your intent is to show how jaywill has a correct understanding of Luke 4:16-21, but then you largely went off on a wider tangent than jaywill's tangent.

As another ...[text shortened]... t-out response and I'll address it. Or even the "Best Jaywill Post EVER". Otherwise troll elsewhere.

I’ll continue to post as and where I chose and I’ll continue to call you out for being the fake “words of Jesus” subscriber which you are.

Pharisees are mentioned elsewhere in the gospels, go look those passages up and report back.

Yes it was Satan who said that and yes they still protected Jesus at the cliff edge.

I think sonship has it correct in this case and you don’t. And there is nothing wrong with my explaination about why it appeared that they hated Jesus.

Anytime you want to have a rummage in your underpants to see if you’ve grown the balls to answer my checkmate questions I’ve been putting to you for over a year, please PM me or in some way gain my attention.

@divegeester said
I’ll continue to post as and where I chose and I’ll continue to call you out for being the fake “words of Jesus” subscriber which you are.

Pharisees are mentioned elsewhere in the gospels, go look those passages up and report back.

Yes it was Satan who said that and yes they still protected Jesus at the cliff edge.

I think sonship has it correct in this case an ...[text shortened]... e questions I’ve been putting to you for over a year, please PM me or in some way gain my attention.

Seemed unlikely that you weren't trolling as usual.

I think sonship has it correct in this case and you don’t. And there is nothing wrong with my explaination about why it appeared that they hated Jesus.

Other than Jesus explained why they rejected Him. Like I said, "If you're sincere about having a discussion about Luke 4:16-21, put together a well-thought-out response and I'll address it". Since it apparently went over your head again, the key there is "well-thought-out".

Anytime you want to have a rummage in your underpants to see if you’ve grown the balls to answer my checkmate questions I’ve been putting to you for over a year, please PM me or in some way gain my attention.

Checkmate questions? lol. Says the guy unable to discern the difference between the devil and Jesus.

You really do operate on the level of a young teen.

@thinkofone said
Seemed unlikely that you weren't trolling as usual.

I think sonship has it correct in this case and you don’t. And there is nothing wrong with my explaination about why it appeared that they hated Jesus.

Other than Jesus explained why they rejected Him. Like I said, "If you're sincere about having a discussion about Luke 4:16-21, put together a well-thought-o ...[text shortened]... n the difference between the devil and Jesus.

You really do operate on the level of a young teen.

I’m not interested in “discussing” anything with you “Duchess64.” I find you to be a fake follower of Jesus. I just wanted to show some support for sonship’s position which I thought was well made on this ocaision.

If you are serious about wanting a discussion and are prepared to discuss the words of Jesus as they relate to my checkmate questions which you have been avoiding for a year, then, as I said...send me a PM.

@divegeester said
I’m not interested in “discussing” anything with you “Duchess64.” I find you to be a fake follower of Jesus. I just wanted to show some support for sonship’s position which I thought was well made on this ocaision.

If you are serious about wanting a discussion and are prepared to discuss the words of Jesus as they relate to my checkmate questions which you have been avoiding for a year, then, as I said...send me a PM.

s*** this is tedious. whats your problem with ToO? That he wont pay lip service?

That makes him fake?

C'mon that reasoning is about as spurious as is gets.

@thinkofone said
Originally posted by @sonship

C'mon jaywill.

I have started through your response. I'll let you know when you have answered me.

How can you so consistently get things so muddled up?

No answer yet. Staling for time.

Seriously, learn to read in context.

No answer yet. Still staling and evading.
[quote]
Take ...[text shortened]... xt" expert, you ain't.

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/god-created-us.178526/page-9

You have WAY too much time on your hands, TOO.

Is wasting that much time how you follow the Gospel that Jesus preached during His ministry?

@karoly-aczel said
s*** this is tedious. whats your problem with ToO? That he wont pay lip service?

That makes him fake?

C'mon that reasoning is about as spurious as is gets.

Do you give your kids your login details?

@divegeester said
Do you give your kids your login details?

Oooh, chase me, chase me!