22 Oct 17
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNo not at all, did you read the whole bible about how this is applied?
Did the whole 'Jesus dying for the sins of mankind thing' pass you by?
Atonement? Redemption?
22 Oct 17
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeExcuse me, share what I have said that is not backed up with scripture, if you are able. Then if you are able backup what you think is the proper application of God’s grace! I await your response where you backup your accusation, and your own views.
You mean your erroneous interpretation?
22 Oct 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou stated:
Excuse me, share what I have said that is not backed up with scripture, if you are able. Then if you are able backup what you think is the proper application of God’s grace! I await your response where you backup your accusation, and your own views.
"A lot more are going to be cast into the lake of fire than enter into the Kingdom of God."
It is the above that is not supported by scripture.
22 Oct 17
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou think I am wrong due to scripture you think back ups your position, or you don’t think I have scripture to backup my position? I will provide scripture as soon as I get on a computer.
You stated:
"A lot more are going to be cast into the lake of fire than enter into the Kingdom of God."
It is the above that is not supported by scripture.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeHere are a few examples:
You stated:
"A lot more are going to be cast into the lake of fire than enter into the Kingdom of God."
It is the above that is not supported by scripture.
Matthew 7:13-15 King James Version
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to
destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and
narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 3:3-7
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born
again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be
born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the
Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh;
and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be
born again.
John 3: 16-21
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth
in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world
to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth
on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he
hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the
condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than
light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither
cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to
the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
We can start here I can bring many more if you'd like.
23 Oct 17
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo, bearing your beliefs and lifestyle as they currently stand in mind, what circumstances do you believe could result in you being "cast into the lake of fire"? sonship ~ with his OSAS ideology ~ asserts that people only have to believe in Jesus to be "saved" ~ which would suggest maybe billions of currently living Christians avoiding "damnation". There is a discrepancy between the dogma the two of you are trotting out. And yet, you never seem to tackle him on it.
"A lot more are going to be cast into the lake of fire than enter into the Kingdom of God."
23 Oct 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayDoes the expression "a lot more" refer to the proportion of the world's 7.6 billion population that is not Christian? So, do you believe that those who are going to "enter into the Kingdom of God" are those among the 2.4 billion Christians who genuinely believe they have been "saved" by Jesus.
A lot more are going to be cast into the lake of fire than enter into the Kingdom of God.