Billions Become New Jerusalem

Originally posted by @sonship

"The number of those saved to become New Jerusalem is beyond human counting when John wrote this:"

Notice I wrote "beyond human counting".
Notice I wrote "when John wrote this."

You do get the point though, I hope - a very large number of human beings brought into the full salvation of the consummate city of God.

Originally posted by @stellspalfie
What number is beyond human counting????????

Notice I wrote " when John wrote this."

Originally posted by @stellspalfie
What number is beyond human counting????????

Originally posted by @whodey
Innumerable?

How will they handle carbon emissions?

Will it then create a living hell?

Originally posted by @gswilm
Once again, perhaps NOW it could be counted.

Notice I wrote "[b] when John wrote this."

Incidently, the few Youtubes on impossibly high numbers like Graham's Number and Tree 3 are very interesting. Numbephil has a couple of neat lectures on ridiculously big numbers.

My focus here is more on God's salvation eventually ...[text shortened]... man beings. I have no debate with you on how high today mathematicians can count.

- sonship[/b]

Originally posted by @stellspalfie
you may not want to debate it, not much to debate I agree. Just pointing out another glaring mistake in the Bible.

New Jerusalem, rather than a place like heaven the saved are going, she is an entity that the saved are becoming.

That is becoming through transformation by salvation in Jesus Christ.
That is transformation and building up together to be a corporate vessel to contain God.

New Jerusalem as the ultimate destiny of every believer in Christ we might say is also a real "Mrs. Christ". That is why in addition to the city being described as a temple and tabernacle she is a Bride and a Wife of the Lamb. She is brought about to MATCH Jesus Christ,

She is brought about to become a counterpart, a romantic partner of Christ. So John also sees New Jerualem as a Bride adorned for her husband.

"And I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." (Rev. 21:2)

Many people don't know that the word used for what God did to Adam's rib bone was to BUILD it into a woman. The Recovery Version reads -

" And Jehovah God built the rib He had taken from man, into a woman and brought her to the man." (Gen. 3:22)

Adam had all the animals brought before him. They were all cool. But none of them matched him. Adam's expectation grew. But nothing matched him.

Then God put Adam to sleep. And extracted a rib from his side and built it into a woman. When Adam was awake again the built woman was brought to him, and he was joyous.

"This time, THIS TIME" he said "It is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh". She matched him as his beloved counterpart.

Jesus, "the last Adam" went to "sleep" in dying on His cross of redemption. And something was taken out of His side also - blood and water. This is meaningful.

" But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately there came out blood and water." (John 19:34)

" Lord Jesus, You need to save me from my sins and put Yourself into my spirit, not only for my salvation. But Lord even more for the building up of Your eternal dwelling place and Wife New Jerusalem. Thankyou Lord for including me in this great enterprise of adorning a Wife for the Son of God."

Today let's mention the gates of pearl. I like this.

" And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; each one of the gates was, respectively of one pearl. " (Rev. 21:21)

This picture of New Jerusalem is really a portrait in symbols of Christ and the church.
As soon as the justified sinner walks through the gate of pearl immediately he is on the golden street.

Forget the songs saying "streets of gold" because there is only ONE street mentioned in the city. This signifies there is one way to live, one way to walk, one way man has his being. And that is by the divine nature of the Father.

Now you may wonder how ONE street can touch all TWELVE of the gates. The gates are on the four sides - east, west. north, and south. How can this be? The street is a spiral street the goes around and spirals upward more and more.

This means that the tree of life which grows either side of the river of water of life which also spirals around the same direction as the street, is a vine tree.

"And he showed me a river of water of life, bright as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb in the middle of its [singular] STREET. (22:1)

And on this side and on that side of the river was the tree of life, producing twleve fruits, yielding its fruit each month, and the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations." (v.2)

The Triune God mingles with His people to build the church which enlarged become New Jerusalem. God arrives at the perfect uniting of divinity and humanity for a corporate expression of the invisible God.

The major aspects of the New Jerusalem all remind the careful reader of God's salvation.

The Lamb on the throne means Christ the Redeemer.
The tree of life as a vine spreading along the river of life points to Christ as well.
The river of water of life as clear as crystal speaks of the life giving Holy Spirit.
The golden street conveys the divine nature of the Father.

The Father is also seen as the Creator God on the throne in chapter 4 of a jasper color. Yet the whole city which "having the glory of God" also bares the same color as the Creator, the Father.

The city is called the tabernacle of God which means God lives in the dwelling place.
The tabernacle of God is also where man worships God.
This worshipping though is the entire living of man in the city because the street speaks of the way the saved will live and walk.

The Holy Spirit is also strongly indicated in the precious stones. The twelve manner of precious stones mean the saved are transformed in God's salvation. All transformation of the saved takes place by the work of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Why God is triune can never be separated from what God's eternal purpose is. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit operated together in perfect coordination to create man, redeem man, regenerate man, transform man, resurrect man, conform man into the image of Christ the Firstborn Son of God. and to build the saved men and women up together in love and oneness to be the corporate vessel containing the Triune God.

The city is not only the tabernacle of God and the temple of God but also the Wife of Christ and the Bride of Christ. These are different aspects of the climax of God's work. These different aspects are about seeing His eternal purpose from varied angles according to varied needs of God and man.

Originally posted by @sonship
The Triune God mingles with His people to build the [b]church which enlarged become New Jerusalem. God arrives at the perfect uniting of divinity and humanity for a corporate expression of the invisible God.

The major aspects of the New Jerusalem all remind the careful reader of God's salvation.

The Lamb on the throne means Christ t ...[text shortened]... re about seeing His eternal purpose from varied angles according to varied needs of God and man.[/b]

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
The problem with the Trinity sir is that you have God talking to himself on the cross.

"My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" (Matthew 27:46)