Originally posted by josephwDid you not read my post? I think I explained that I find the idea of a supernatural thing abhorent. That's why I don't want to believe.
[b]I really don't want to believe.
I wonder what neural circuit produced that.[/b]
Of course, I recognise that's not good enough, so I use science as a basis to help support my belief.
Originally posted by josephwWe are nature, we are part of the fabric of this planet.
Bigger bombs. Concrete covering everything. Wires stung out all over the landscape. polluted rivers, lakes, and skies. etc. etc. etc.
Nature is beautiful. Man is ugly.
I thought God created man in his image, are you saying God is ugly?
Originally posted by amannionI read your post.
Did you not read my post? I think I explained that I find the idea of a supernatural thing abhorent. That's why I don't want to believe.
Of course, I recognise that's not good enough, so I use science as a basis to help support my belief.
It's too bad you feel that way. I mean about God. You don't know Him. If you did you'd change your mind.
Originally posted by josephwHow is claiming that we are part of nature stupid? I've lost you.
Gonna get stupid now are you?
When did you rise to the level of defining what we are? Do you think you're God?
Are we part of life on this planet? Are we part of the natural world? If yes is the answer to both questions then i would say that qualifies us as part of nature.
I'm not defining what we are, and even if i was i don't think you have to be God to do that. Just a little intelligence will do.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThe part about God being ugly was stupid.
How is claiming that we are part of nature stupid? I've lost you.
Are we part of life on this planet? Are we part of the natural world? If yes is the answer to both questions then i would say that qualifies us as part of nature.
I'm not defining what we are, and even if i was i don't think you have to be God to do that. Just a little intelligence will do.
Maybe you live in a city. If you ever get to spend much time in the country on a farm you'll learn the difference between nature and man.
It's not the same as what's on TV.
Nature has natural rhythms and doesn't deviate to far from it. Man on the other hand runs rampant destroying everything in sight.
Originally posted by josephwMaybe you live in a city. If you ever get to spend much time in the country on a farm you'll learn the difference between nature and man.
The part about God being ugly was stupid.
Maybe you live in a city. If you ever get to spend much time in the country on a farm you'll learn the difference between nature and man.
It's not the same as what's on TV.
Nature has natural rhythms and doesn't deviate to far from it. Man on the other hand runs rampant destroying everything in sight.
I live in the countryside.
Originally posted by PBE6Isn't it widely recognized that our genes affect our behaviour? Even if this is not deterministic and nurture also plays an important role, it still would not be blank slate.
I just re-read a 2002 interview with experimental psychologist and cognitive scientist Steven Pinker by Reason magazine, in which he discusses his book "The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature" (recently published at the time):
http://reason.com/archives/2002/10/01/biology-vs-the-blank-slate/
I have also read the book and found it to be ...[text shortened]... /pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/books/tbs/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blank_Slate
(should I read the article first? đ” )
Originally posted by PBE6Can you explain why the "noble savage" myth plays a big part in religion? I see it as almost the opposite for many (proselytizing) religions.
I just re-read a 2002 interview with experimental psychologist and cognitive scientist Steven Pinker by Reason magazine, in which he discusses his book "The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature" (recently published at the time):
http://reason.com/archives/2002/10/01/biology-vs-the-blank-slate/
I have also read the book and found it to be ...[text shortened]... /pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/books/tbs/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blank_Slate
Originally posted by josephwI most certainly did not make this bed so don't include me in your collective 'we'. Either this bed came about by chance ie it just is, or God made it and put me in it, or possibly some alien came up with it, or maybe some mythical Adam and Eve brought it about, but whatever the alternative you choose, if God exists, then he put me here and supposedly could have chosen to put me somewhere else, so if God exists, I can put some of the blame on him.
I knew you'd say that.
Don't blame God for what we do. We made this bed. Now we have to sleep in it.