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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I know what he is asking, let him cite five out of these thousands who can evaluate Dr
BeDhuns work, after all, I have only asked him five or six times to do so. surely they exist?

He's not questioning his findings. So why does he need to verify them?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I see, so a book looking at the specific translations of the English text found in eight
specific translations of the New testament can be discussed without actually having
read the work that seeks to examine them, tell us, how you propose to ascertain the
veracity or otherwise of Dr BeDhuns findings if you have not read his work on the
subject?

What I have been asking you is, have Jason DeBuhn's opinions been corroborated by anyone. That question is, in and of itself, an attempt to get some information about its purported veracity with regard to how it is perceived by his peers. No I have not read his book, but it's interesting to hear from you that you can find no other scholar who has corroborated the opinions it puts forward.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I don't know and i don't care. I'm not questioning his findings.

I am not asking whether you are or are not, i am asking, from these thousands of
alleged Biblical scholars, how many are able or otherwise to corroborate Dr BeDhuns
work? FMF has stated that there are thousands, you yourself produced a reference to
thousands and yet seem unable to cite a single one? why is that?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not asking whether you are or are not, i am asking, from these thousands of
alleged Biblical scholars, how many are able or otherwise to corroborate Dr BeDhuns
work? FMF has stated that there are thousands, you yourself produced a reference to
thousands and yet seem unable to cite a single one? why is that?

Why would i need to corroborate something i'm not disputing? 🙄

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I know what he is asking, let him cite five out of these thousands who can evaluate Dr
BeDhuns work, after all, I have only asked him five or six times to do so. surely they exist?

Surely the onus is on you to cite any that have evaluated DeBuhn's opinions and corroborated them. That is my question. If, as you now say, nobody has corroborated them, that is fine. If your answer is 'nobody', then it doesn't really matter how many scholars are out there.

Originally posted by FMF
What I have been asking you is, have Jason DeBuhn's opinions been corroborated by anyone. That question is, in and of itself, an attempt to get some information about its purported veracity with regard to how it is perceived by his peers. No I have not read his book, but it's interesting to hear from you that you can find no other scholar who has corroborated the opinions it puts forward.

oh the irony, Mr Independently intellectual religion is stifling to the intellectual process
is content to let others form his opinions for him, why dont you read the book for
yourself and make an evaluation with your own mind? Ok, look, ill do you a favour and
find someone who has said something about his book, i do recall reading the bleating of
some irate trinitarian with no formal qualifications and an axe to grind that would put
Eric blood-axe to shame.

Originally posted by FMF
Surely the onus is on you to cite any that have evaluated DeBuhn's opinions and corroborated them. That is my question. If, as you now say, nobody has corroborated them, that is fine. If your answer is 'nobody', then it doesn't really matter how many scholars are out there.

No there is no onus on me, I did not assert that there are thousands of scholars able or otherwise to corroborate the text , you did.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Ok, look, ill do you a favour and find someone who has said something about his book, i do recall reading the bleating of some irate trinitarian with no formal qualifications and an axe to grind that would put Eric blood-axe to shame.

I am interested in corroboration of DeBuhn's opinions, not in anyone's "bleating" about them.

Originally posted by FMF
I am interested in corroboration of DeBuhn's opinions, not in anyone's "bleating" about them.

I corroborate his text, will I do?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No there is no onus on me, I did not assert that there are thousands of scholars able or otherwise to corroborate the text , you did.

Here is my question, verbatim: 'Of the thousands of bible scholars out there who have written books, is there a list of a few hundred of them somewhere who concur with BeDhun?'

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I corroborate his text, will I do?

No, not really. Because I am rather struck by your reliance on him as an authority. And that is why I have questioned you about it.

Originally posted by FMF
Here is my question, verbatim: 'Of the thousands of bible scholars out there who have written books, is there a list of a few hundred of them somewhere who concur with BeDhun?'

as i have stated I have not found a single, 'scholar', out of these alleged thousands who
has undertaken to corroborate or otherwise Dr BeDhuns work and after repeated
petitions that you may recommend anyone, despite references to lists being produced,
it seems that we are bereft.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...[you are] content to let others form [your] opinions for [you]... why dont you read the book for yourself and make an evaluation with your own mind?

Hasn't Proper Knob put something like this to you in the past?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
as i have stated I have not found a single, 'scholar', out of these alleged thousands who
has undertaken to corroborate or otherwise Dr BeDhuns work and after repeated
petitions that you may recommend anyone, despite references to lists being produced,
it seems that we are bereft.

So, you haven't found a single scholar who corroborates Jason DeBuhn's opinions. Fine. That was all I wanted to know.

Originally posted by FMF
No, not really. Because I am rather struck by your reliance on him as an authority. And that is why I have questioned you about it.

there are very few authors with either the knowledge or the motivation who could
undertake a work like this, it seems somewhat unique to me. Yes there are Bible
translations and translators, but to actually try to make an evaluation of how good the
translation is and make a comparison with other translations and to publish those
findings in a book so that the lay person may also grasp them is unprecedented, at
least to my knowledge. BeDhun has effectively blown the lid off the whole lot. I am
naturally drawn to it because it states independently and from a recognised scholar
what we have always known, that the New world translation is not only an accurate
rendering of the base text, its the most accurate for that matter.