Calling All Aliens

Originally posted by chaney3
You are acting like you and God went through a vicious and bitter 'divorce', in which you now cannot wait to lash out at Him whenever possible..

"Lash out" at what?

Originally posted by FMF
So if I were to accept your challenge and offer you "something better", would it - bottom line - [b]have to guarantee you immortality?[/b]

Nope. Mortality may be better if your Atheism is right.
Show how.

Better, just means better.

You know you could always just admit that you don't have squat as a better teaching than what Jesus has.

Originally posted by FMF
So you are saying you think I am a malignant narcissist? And you want me to watch a video about it?

Sure.
If your savvy enough to pin-point "passive aggressive" why not learn more about dealing with Narcisism.

I've watched scores of them.
Some of them did remind me of you.

Originally posted by sonship
You know you could always just admit that you don't have squat as a better teaching than what Jesus has.

But I have already said to you, if the Jesus story gives you what you want with regard to eternal life and all the rest, you know, the meaning and purpose and comfort it gives you, then that's good. I do not think there is anything I can say that will make you give up your religion, why would I want to do such a thing? Presumably the only effect I have on you is to make your faith stronger.

Originally posted by sonship
Sure.
If your savvy enough to pin-point "passive aggressive" why not learn more about dealing with Narcisism.

I've watched scores of them.
Some of them did remind me of you.

If you don't think your behaviour on the forum is passive aggressive sometimes, and certainly is whenever you trot out this set piece where you ask me to replace your religion with some other religion that I think is better, then so be it. You once asked me to show you topics that I thought were spiritual and which demonstrated my outlook and experience, you blanked it out. I believe passive aggressive is the right term for message board tricks of that kind. If it's caused you to diagnose me as a malignant narcissist, then OK, fine.

Originally posted by sonship
I've watched scores of them.
Some of them did remind me of you.

You've watched scores of videos about malignant narcissism and they remind you of me. I see. OK. It gives me something to think about.

Originally posted by FMF

You seem to imply that everyone who one day opens their heart to come to Jesus Christ has only issues of immortality on the mind.

In my case, my coming to Christ was intensely practical and related to here and now. As I read through the Bible I expanded to see that salvation was quite wide in scope.

I once told here about the successful lawyer friend of mine who was going through an ugly divorce. He was one night in a hotel room considering his sad situation.

He told me that over across the room on a table sat a Gideon Bible. He did not open it. He did not read it. He said he just sat there looking at it.

He sat there considering for the first time that maybe he needed God. Maybe in his painful situation, he needed God. I always remembered that fellow's testimony. That is how he just sat there looking at a closed Bible - considering for the first time in his life - "Maybe the answer for me is in God."

Not every conversion is steeped in preoccupation with the next life.
Jesus saves from everything.

Originally posted by chaney3
You are acting like you and God went through a vicious and bitter 'divorce'.

Well, no. I have spoken about it here several times. I have nothing but positive memories of my Christian years. And the process of losing my faith was not a trauma at all. It was interesting. Drawn out. Gradual. Not unpleasant. It has been refreshing. I continue to live among Christians. There is nothing "bitter" in the air at all. You are misreading the situation.

Originally posted by sonship
You seem to imply that everyone who one day opens their heart to come to Jesus Christ has only issues of immortality on the mind.

No I am not implying that.

Originally posted by sonship

In my case, my coming to Christ was intensely practical and related to here and now. As I read through the Bible I expanded to see that salvation was quite wide in scope.

I once told here about the successful lawyer friend of mine who was going through an ugly divorce. He was one night in a hotel room considering his sad situation.

He told me that over across the room on a table sat a Gideon Bible. He did not open it. He did not read it. He said he just sat there looking at it.

He sat there considering for the first time that maybe he needed God. Maybe in his painful situation, he needed God. I always remembered that fellow's testimony. That is how he just sat there looking at a closed Bible - considering for the first time in his life - "Maybe the answer for me is in God."

Not every conversion is steeped in preoccupation with the next life.
Jesus saves from everything.

Would the Jesus story work for you even if it promised no eternal life and if you believed that you simply died and got buried or cremated at the end of your life?

Originally posted by FMF
Well, no. I have spoken about it here several times. I have nothing but positive memories of my Christian years. And the process of losing my faith was not a trauma at all. It was interesting. Drawn out. Gradual. Not unpleasant. It has been refreshing. I continue to live among Christians. There is nothing "bitter" in the air at all. You are misreading the situation.

I don't think there is a single Christian on earth in history who has nothing but positive memories of having faith.

Okay, so you went from joy to glee. You went from being happy as a disciple of Jesus to being more happy as an Atheist.

All your unpleasant interactions with Christians began AFTER they tried to convince you to come back to the flock ?

You must have good memories of all your interactions with Christians on this Forum too ?
I think you should add that to your arsenal.

"I have nothing but fond memories of any and all encounters with Christians ever since."

Do you recall the very first time your interaction with a Christian was not a positive memory ?

Originally posted by sonship
I don't think there is a single Christian on earth in history who has nothing but positive memories of having faith.

I cannot remember anything negative about having faith.

Originally posted by sonship
All your unpleasant interactions with Christians began AFTER they tried to convince you to come back to the flock ?

What "unpleasant interactions with Christians" are you referring to?

Originally posted by sonship
You must have good memories of all your interactions with Christians on this Forum too ?

I am not complaining about any of the interactions. A lot of the stuff people like you and Suzianne and josephw and RJHinds and Eladar say is water off a duck's back. You're a peculiar bunch. But you don't have any appreciable impact on my actual real life perception of and relationship with Christians.

Originally posted by sonship
Do you recall the very first time your interaction with a Christian was not a positive memory ?

In so far as their Christian beliefs were the issue discussed or the matter at hand:I have no memories that are not positive.