12 Feb 19
@sonship saidCorrection.
@divegeester
This thread is about Divegeester's unimpressive failed hubris.
This thread is about your complete inability to answer critical salvation based questions about your strange beliefs.
12 Feb 19
@fmf saidI have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.
I am always striving to be a good father and a good husband and a good colleague and a good teacher and a good broadcaster and a good community member and a good friend and companion to various people around the world and down my street. You are striving to be something you cannot be? How so?
A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.
12 Feb 19
@kellyjay saidThe leaders at sonship's church (and presumably sonship himself) believe I'm to hell to be burnt alive for eternity by the Jesus I think is my Saviour. Sonship however is not ignoring me.
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.
A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.
You don't agree with sonship's and his church leaders pov and therefore agree that if I claim to be a christian then I am one. However you have me on "ignore".
And somehow in all this, I'm the bad guy because I ask awkward questions.
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12 Feb 19
@kellyjay saidAtheists reside in a world without God and still manage to decide among themselves what is good and bad. Sure, there are some grey areas, but such areas are to be found also in scripture. The idea that the word of God has one unchanging standard for good simply doesn't stack up.
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.
A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.
@kellyjay saidYou are striving to be something you cannot be? How so? What are you striving to be that you cannot be?
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.
13 Feb 19
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidYes, Atheist figure out for themselves what they think is good and bad, I would even suggest that there are many look at scriptures and attempt to work out what they like to. Working out for ourselves Isn’t being held to any standard.
Atheists reside in a world without God and still manage to decide among themselves what is good and bad. Sure, there are some grey areas, but such areas are to be found also in scripture. The idea that the word of God has one unchanging standard for good simply doesn't stack up.
When Jesus was asked what was the greatest law He gave two not one. Love God and each other so as a static law anything we do contrary no matter how convenient or how strong our convictions we would be conflict with God.
As a broken people our truth meters reside in us with our desires and preferences guiding us. Self motivation and self righteousness can sway our truth meter into whatever desire we want, or can justify. This can be true with the written word and without it.
The moral law giver has to be a little more personal, or no matter what, or we are left to figuring it all out for ourselves.
13 Feb 19
@proper-knob saidThe Biblical God is the one who gives us life and sets up all the limitations from physics and life times.
The Biblical God commanded genocide. This is not ‘good’.