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ToO (one suspects) does not believe Jesus was sent by God, and the fact that Jesus said 'he was' sent by God is highly problematic for him. Previously I surmised only 3 replies are possible:
1. Jesus lied. (Which would be self-destroying for ToO).
2. Those words were falsely attributed to him. (Impossible to prove and would raise the question 'how can we, therefore, be certain any of his words were attributable to him? )
3. Jesus faithfully believed he was sent by God but was mistaken. (A particularly weak argument and would cause ToO a whole host of problems).
There is perhaps a 4th understanding that ToO might be toying with:
4. When Jesus said he was sent by God he was speaking figuratively (not literally). Of course, even here ToO will struggle to defend such a position. (Especially as he is thoroughly lacking in a theology degree).
30 Nov 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidnuts..
ToO (one suspects) does not believe Jesus was sent by God, and the fact that Jesus said 'he was' sent by God is highly problematic for him. Previously I surmised only 3 replies are possible:
1. Jesus lied. (Which would be self-destroying for ToO).
2. Those words were falsely attributed to him. (Impossible to prove and would raise the question 'how can we, theref ...[text shortened]... l struggle to defend such a position. (Especially as he is thoroughly lacking in a theology degree).
30 Nov 18
@divegeester saidFriday-evening-what-a-feeling do the bump for thinkofone the disco guy in the make up
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
@divegeester saidMonday callout for thinkofone.
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
Gave you the weekend off 😜
@divegeester saidFrequent bump for @Thinkofone
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
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I think he believes that what you think of as "Jesus" was in fact a historical figure hijacked by the people who created the religion that you subscribe to. You quote Paul on this forum more than you quote Jesus. To claim that ThinkOfOne believes that Jesus was "a liar and a deceiver like no other in history" is, of course, a straw man on your part. What's with all these logical fallacies, sonship?
The words of Jesus are recorded in the so-called Sermon on the Mount. Let's just take chapters 5,6. and 7.
Could you indicate which sayings are the ones invented by the hijackers? Then we can seperate them out from the ones you think are un-hijacked and authentic.
Matthew chapter 5 - 48 verses.
Matthew chapter 6 - 34 verses.
Matthew chapter 7 - 29 verses.
Please list the ones invented by the hijackers.
@divegeester saidRegular bump for our friend @thinkofone
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
@divegeester saidTimely bump for @thinkofone...
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
@divegeester saidSunday bump for @thinkofone
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
@divegeester saidRegular bump for @thinkofone
You repeatedly claim that this question is off topic so I thought it was about time that we gave it its own thread.
So tell us, as someone who proclaims the validity of the “words of Jesus” “while he was on earth”...
When Jesus said he was sent by God, was he correct?
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@sonship saidI believe they were all written decades and decades after the death of Jesus by people who had never met him.
@FMF
[quote] I think he believes that what you think of as "Jesus" was in fact a historical figure hijacked by the people who created the religion that you subscribe to. You quote Paul on this forum more than you quote Jesus. To claim that ThinkOfOne believes that Jesus was "a liar and a deceiver like no other in history" is, of course, a straw man on your part. What's wi ...[text shortened]... rses.
Matthew chapter 7 - 29 verses.
Please list the ones invented by the hijackers.