08 Jun 11
Originally posted by PenguinPenguin, have you ever mated with a pigeon and produced
I think, if we do an 'efficacy of prayer' study with a large enough sample size, then we should get a reasonable number of answered prayers. If prayer actually works beyond chance, then there will be a higher proportion of 'true' believers in the 'successful' group. Then do a 2nd study, comparing the 'successful' group with another random sample. You will n ...[text shortened]... ure something like the above suggestion should answer the questions.
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30 Jun 11
Ok, guys, I have several questions:
1) why do you even BELIEVE in scientists? Weren't scientist (all 14 or so of them) these same idiots (no offense) who decided (without the rest of the scientific community) that Pluto SHOULD NOT BE A PLANET?
2) Who walked with Adam in the cool of the day?
3) Where is God now?
4) Where was Jesus when God CREATED the world?
5) Why are most things, in the universe and in science, broken down into 3's (as in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit)?
6) For those evolutionist out there: if creation is wrong and evolution is correct, then WHY ARE NOT CONTINUING TO EVOLVE? I mean do not evolutionists BELIEVE that man evolved from monkeys? If so, then what did man evolve into? Hmmmmmmm?????????
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by winkAnswers:
Ok, guys, I have several questions:
1) why do you even BELIEVE in scientists? Weren't scientist (all 14 or so of them) these same idiots (no offense) who decided (without the rest of the scientific community) that Pluto SHOULD NOT BE A PLANET?
2) Who walked with Adam in the cool of the day?
3) Where is God now?
4) Where was Jesus when God CREATED the world? ...[text shortened]... BELIEVE that man evolved from monkeys? If so, then what did man evolve into? Hmmmmmmm?????????
1) ???
2) God
3) The Father and Son in heaven and the Holy Spirit on earth.
4) In the mind of God
5) It is the signature of God.
6) I am not an evolutionists, but the evolutionist Dawkins has stated that
man did not evolve from monkeys or apes for they are modern animals.
They all have evolved from some imaginary animal that became extinct.
He says there is no longer any evolving because evoution is complete.
He did not say what man has evolved into.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by RJHindsActually man did evolve from apes and is still classified as an ape. He did not evolve from a currently existing ape, but from apes that existed in the past.
6) I am not an evolutionists, but the evolutionist Dawkins has stated that
man did not evolve from monkeys or apes for they are modern animals.
They all have evolved from some imaginary animal that became extinct.
He says there is no longer any evolving because evoution is complete.
He did not say what man has evolved into.
The species that man evolved from did not become extinct, as by definition that would mean it would have no descendants, yet man is a descendant.
Evolution is not complete and we continue to evolve.
Essentially you have got every single sentence you wrote wrong.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadIf our imaginary ancestor did not become extinct, why do we not
Actually man did evolve from apes and is still classified as an ape. He did not evolve from a currently existing ape, but from apes that existed in the past.
The species that man evolved from did not become extinct, as by definition that would mean it would have no descendants, yet man is a descendant.
Evolution is not complete and we continue to evolve.
Essentially you have got every single sentence you wrote wrong.
know what exactly it was and where are all the missing links between
it and the modern apes and man today. And if you know so much to
say I got all the answers wrong, why did you not try to answer any of
them? Very curious, indeed, my dishonest fellow.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by RJHindsIt didn't become extinct - by definition. We are its descendants. If something becomes extinct then it has no descendants.
If our imaginary ancestor did not become extinct, why do we not
know what exactly it was and where are all the missing links between
it and the modern apes and man today.
We don't know exactly what it was because the only evidence we have for what animals lived at that time are fossils and we have not yet found enough fossils for us to be sure in all cases whether a given species is our direct ancestor or a relative of our ancestors. The same applies to so called 'missing links'. We will never find a fossil for every single generation - and we shouldn't expect to.
And if you know so much to say I got all the answers wrong, why did you not try to answer any of
them?
I did not see the questions until you replied. I have answered some of them in my corrections of your statements.
Very curious, indeed, my dishonest fellow.
In what way have I been dishonest? I am still waiting for an apology for your false accusation of dishonesty in the other thread.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadSo it appears since we have no fossil evidence of this imaginary animal,
It didn't become extinct - by definition. We are its descendants. If something becomes extinct then it has no descendants.
We don't know exactly what it was because the only evidence we have for what animals lived at that time are fossils and we have not yet found enough fossils for us to be sure in all cases whether a given species is our direct ances ...[text shortened]... m still waiting for an apology for your false accusation of dishonesty in the other thread.
it will have to remain in the minds of the evolutionists, which is not
scientific fact for any kind of evolution at all. Then since we do not have
scientific proof of this animal, then it probably did not exist in the first
place and we probably did not evolve at all; but we were probably
created by God just like the Holy Bible says we were. And of course,
I still believe you have been the dishonest person and actually owe
me an apology. But as a Christian, I will forgive your misdeeds and
demand no apology.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by RJHindsWho said we have no scientific proof? Just because we have no fossil evidence doesn't mean we don't know it existed.
Then since we do not have scientific proof of this animal,
Did you have a great great grandfather? Do you need fossil evidence to prove that he existed? Do you need to know his name and where he lived, to know that he existed?
And of course, I still believe you have been the dishonest person
Well then quote the statement I made that you claim was dishonest and I will prove that I was, at the time, telling what I believed to be the truth ie I was being honest.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadI am not asking for fossil evidence that my great, great grandfather existed
Who said we have no scientific proof? Just because we have no fossil evidence doesn't mean we don't know it existed.
Did you have a great great grandfather? Do you need fossil evidence to prove that he existed? Do you need to know his name and where he lived, to know that he existed?
[b]And of course, I still believe you have been the dishonest person ...[text shortened]... prove that I was, at the time, telling what I believed to be the truth ie I was being honest.
because my grandfather told me he existed and I have written records that
provide his date of birth and death and all his childrens names, etc. He was
not an ape and there is no proof that he evolved from some ape in the past.
So, yes I need proof to believe that somehow in the past an ape evolved
into a man.
So you can believe any lie you want, as long as you don't cause me trouble.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by RJHindsSo you think your god put all those fossils in the ground just to jerk our chains?
So it appears since we have no fossil evidence of this imaginary animal,
it will have to remain in the minds of the evolutionists, which is not
scientific fact for any kind of evolution at all. Then since we do not have
scientific proof of this animal, then it probably did not exist in the first
place and we probably did not evolve at all; but we were p ...[text shortened]... ly owe
me an apology. But as a Christian, I will forgive your misdeeds and
demand no apology.
30 Jun 11
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat happened to Adam & Eves fossils? After all it was only about 6,000 years ago wasnt it?
If our imaginary ancestor did not become extinct, why do we not
know what exactly it was and where are all the missing links between
it and the modern apes and man today. And if you know so much to
say I got all the answers wrong, why did you not try to answer any of
them? Very curious, indeed, my dishonest fellow.
Where is your proof?
11 Jul 11
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Originally posted by jaywillHere is another good video for atheist to look at:
Back again by necessity to any who have not yet seen this.
[b]"Has Science Made Belief in God Obsolete?" A great four video lecture by J.P. Moreland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGV7eSuU8ow&feature=related[/b]
&feature=related