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Originally posted by josephw
Well, I guess it simply boils down to the day when you face the truth you can tell Jesus it was just his opinion.

But I don't believe any of that stuff. So I don't believe it simply boils down to what you happen to guess it boils down to.

Originally posted by chaney3
Why are you a weak Christian Dive?

What other "weak Christians" do you feel you have encountered in this community, aside from divegeester?

Originally posted by FMF
What other "weak Christians" do you feel you have encountered in this community, aside from divegeester?

Dive has not yet explained what he means by 'weak Christian', a term he used to describe his 30 years of Christianity.

Originally posted by chaney3
Dive has not yet explained what he means by 'weak Christian', a term he used to describe his 30 years of Christianity.

This doesn't answer my question. I asked you what other "weak Christians" do you feel you have encountered in this community, aside from him?

Originally posted by FMF
This doesn't answer my question. I asked you what other "weak Christians" do you feel you have encountered in this community, aside from him?

Do you know what a weak Christian is?
I don't want to assume, nor define it the wrong way, which is why I am patiently waiting for a proper definition.

Originally posted by chaney3
Dive has not yet explained what he means by 'weak Christian', a term he used to describe his 30 years of Christianity.

"Weak" in this context generally means not particularly strong.

Originally posted by chaney3
Do you know what a weak Christian is?
I don't want to assume, nor define it the wrong way, which is why I am patiently waiting for a proper definition.

You yourself have called him a weak Christian more times than I can remember. Who else here do you feel is a weak Christian?

Originally posted by divegeester
"Weak" in this context generally means not particularly strong.

Okay then.....why weak?

Maybe you don't even know.

Originally posted by FMF
You yourself have called him a weak Christian more times than I can remember. Who else here do you feel is a weak Christian?

I called him a fake Christian.

Originally posted by chaney3
I called him a fake Christian.

Who else here do you feel is a fake Christian then?

Originally posted by chaney3
It is not my place to judge.

Is saying 'you are a fake Christian' to a Christian not a judgement you are passing?

Originally posted by FMF
Is saying 'you are a fake Christian' to a Christian not a judgement you are passing?

It could just be an opinion. In the same way that you refer to Dive's God as a 'superstitious god figure' that you don't believe in, but are 'happy' for Dive that he needs such a 'god figure' to provide meaning in his life.

Just an opinion.

Originally posted by chaney3
It could just be an opinion. In the same way that you refer to Dive's God as a 'superstitious god figure' that you don't believe in, but are 'happy' for Dive that he needs such a 'god figure' to provide meaning in his life.

Just an opinion.

So what you're trying to say here is it's an "opinion" and therefore somehow not a "judgement"?

Originally posted by FMF
So what you're trying to say here is it's an "opinion" and therefore somehow not a "judgement"?

Not really. It is not my place to judge, but if I have judged in the past, well...I was wrong, and must own it.

Originally posted by chaney3
you refer to Dive's God as a 'superstitious god figure'

No I don't. I never have. People who believe in supernatural causality are superstitious. That's why I used the word "superstitious". And I have never said anything like the Christian God is superstitious. Religious people are "superstitious". For me to claim a god figure is superstitious, I'd have to believe in that god figure. You seem to have been completely missing the point.