Christ in Genesis 1,2

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke


You explain the "coincidence" then.

Its time you put some substance on your criticisms and stop relying on everybody being wowed by your mastery of Christian jargon.

Folks as some of you may see, the SEA and DEATH are tied together in the whole Bible.

And Christ in resurrection and dry land are tied together in the whole Bible.

No life is mentioned until the dry land out from underneath the waters are seen in Genesis. What are the priorities of the writer? When he was aware of not, no life is mentioned until the land is separated from the water. This is a type of the rising of Christ and it occurred on day # 3.

In the New Testament the Apostle Paul tells us that "the life that is REALLY life" or " the life which is life in indeed" is the eternal life. That is what Christ is to the saved. That means that out of all the lives and all life they are not that ultimate uncreated and eternal indestructible Person of God Himself. He gives Himself in Jesus Christ as the life which is REALLY, life.

" . . . that they may hold of that which is really life." (1 Tim. 6:19)

From Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

That they may lay hold on eternal life.— The older authorities here, instead of “eternal,” read truly. The sentence will then read thus, that they may lay hold on that which is truly life—that is, may lay hold on that which in truth deserves the name “life,”

MacLaren's Expositions agrees with Ellicott's exposition above. The LIFE which can really be called LIFE in its ultimate and most meaningful way is the eternal life.

I. First, then, he says that the real life is the future life.

Those of you who use the Revised Version will see that it makes an alteration in the last clause of our text, and instead of ‘eternal life’ it reads ‘the life which is life indeed,’ the true life; not simply designating it as eternal, but designating it as being the only thing that is worth calling by the august name of life.

What is the life that is really life?
What is the life which is life indeed?
What is the REAL indestructible life to which all other lives can only shadow or point
to ?
What says Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges ?

that they may lay hold] The same tense and voice as the ‘lay hold’ of 1 Timothy 6:12, and the interpretation is similar.

on eternal life] The ms. authority is strongly in favour of the adverb ‘really’ in place of ‘eternal,’ with the article; as R.V. the life which is life indeed; and nothing could be better than such a phrase to describe the ‘heavenly’ or ‘spiritual’ or ‘eternal’ life, in its two parts on this side and on that side the grave, as explained above on 1 Timothy 6:12 and 1 Timothy 4:8; ‘the life worth living.’

Christ's life is the REALLY, the INDEED life. We are to lay hold of Jesus Christ as the ultimate life that is really life. He who is the life which is life indeed - eternal and indestructible.

Concurring with this general concept is also Bengel's Gnomen [my bolding]

1 Timothy 4:8.—ἐπιλάβωνται, may lay hold) as persons emerging from shipwreck. The merchant saved from shipwreck [in this case, as contrasted with all other cases of shipwreck], finds his treasures sent home before him. In 1 Timothy 6:12 mention is made of a fight: the expression is the same, but the figure is different.—τῆς[55] ὌΝΤΩς ΖΩῆς ) Comp. ὌΝΤΩς, ch. 1 Timothy 5:3; 1 Timothy 5:5; 1 Timothy 5:16. True life [that which is life indeed] from the living God.

@sonship said
Folks as some of you may see, the SEA and DEATH are tied together in the whole Bible.

And Christ in resurrection and dry land are tied together in the whole Bible.

No life is mentioned until the dry land out from underneath the waters are seen in Genesis. What are the priorities of the writer? When he was aware of not, no life is mentioned until the land i ...[text shortened]... vealed following the appearance of the dry land out from under the waters of death on the third day.

Another expositor says the eternal life in Christ is life indeed.
I like this because he also says this life is "a good foundation".

This concurs well with, I think, the dry land coming up as a the foundation before all other lives are mentioned in the creation / restoration account of Genesis 1.

The symbolism, some hold, is the resurrection of Christ on the third day being the foundation of all lives and living things created afterwards.

"And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place and let the dry land appear; and it was so." (Gen. 1:9)

Verse 11 then speaks of the lowest life mentioned -sprout grass.
Then [b]herbs yielding seed.
Then up and up ascending to higher forms of life.
Eventually on day 6 we reach the highest created life - human life.

All of these are though not the life which is really life which life is in Jesus Christ who proved His life indestructible and eternal.

Pulpit Commentary [my bold]
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Verse 19. - The life which is life indeed for eternal life, A.V. and T.R. Laying up in store (ἀποθησαυρίζοντες ) ; only here in the New Testament, but once in Wisd. 3:3, and occasionally in classical Greek. A good foundation (θεμέλιον καλόν ).
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@sonship said

The symbolism, some hold, is the resurrection of Christ on the third day being the foundation of all lives and living things created afterwards.

[b]"And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place and let the dry land appear; and it was so." (Gen. 1:9)

The Bible is a whole revelation - Genesis to Revelation.

In this passage we see that the Apostle Paul says that something was uttered by the Holy Spirit in Genesis which was significant to a latter time when the Gospel of Grace was announced.

Do not be influenced by the unbelieving shortsightedness of people who do not believe in God who oversees and transcends time - people like Ghost of a Duke.

Galatians 3:8

"Even as "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness." Know then that they who are of faith, these are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles out of faith, announced the gospel beforehand to Abraham: "In you shall all the nations be blessed." .

Fantastic!
Before Christ was incarnated the Scripture [Old Testament was the only Scripture then] ANNOUNCED to us down through the ages - "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness."

Fantastic. The Scripture beforehand announced - Justification by Faith.

This is like it also, in the opinion of some, beforehand foreshadowed in symbolism the resurrection of Jesus from the dead by the dry land coming up from the waters on the THIRD DAY.

I do not often use paraphrased English versions of the Bible.
Sometimes they may be helpful.

Here the The New Living Translation Bible brings out nicely that Galatians 3:8 proves Scripture was looking forward to the future when Moses wrote that Abrahams was justified by believing.

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New Living Translation
What’s more, the Scriptures looked forward to this time when God would make the Gentiles right in his sight because of their faith. God proclaimed this good news to Abraham long ago when he said, “All nations will be blessed through you.”
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The Berean Study Bible says God "FORESAW" something in Moses having written this:

Berean Study Bible
The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and foretold the gospel to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”

The Christian Standard Bible renders the Galatian passage as God saw in advance

Christian Standard Bible
Now the Scripture saw in advance that God would justify the Gentiles by faith and proclaimed the gospel ahead of time to Abraham, saying, All the nations will be blessed through you.

Supervizing the writing of Scripture is God who transcends all human history.
Don't be cheated by the shortsightedness of the doubting atheist hungering to limit the eternal God out of existence if he can.

A few other renderings of the passage emphasize the same thing:
Good News Translation
The scripture predicted that God would put the Gentiles right with himself through faith. . . . "

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Scripture saw ahead of time that God would give his approval to non-Jewish people who have faith. So Scripture announced the Good News to Abraham ahead of time when it said, . . . "

International Standard Version
Because the Scripture saw ahead of time that God would justify the gentiles by faith, it announced the gospel to Abraham beforehand when it said, "Through you all nations will be blessed."

Literal Standard Version
and the Writing, having foreseen that God declares righteous the nations by faith, foretold the good news to Abraham:

@sonship said

Do not be influenced by the unbelieving shortsightedness of people who do not believe in God who oversees and transcends time - people like Ghost of a Duke.

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There is even more to the story of Adam and Eve. You see Jehovah left the children he loved unattended with a very powerful and coercive being. It is like he built them a sandbox outside and filled it with toys and one hand grenade and said you can play with all the toys but don't touch the hand grenade thingy or it will kill you. He then lets Eddy Haskell (from Leave it to Beaver) come over and play with his children while he Jehovah takes off somewhere. Then he gets pissed and starts showing favoritism to his children ensuring wars, and then genocides them when the all knowing Jehovah regrets creating mankind. Somehow sacrificing animals does it for Jehovah and then ultimately a human/god sacrifice complete with pretend cannibalism is required for salvation and forgiveness. Let me ask you, have you ever truly forgiven someone for something greater than eating fruit? Have you forgiven your children for not minding? Did you require all the death and drama our heavenly father requires for thousands of years to be able to forgive? Did you ever ask one of your children to kill their first born as a test? For God so loved the world he gave them mosquitoes and all the diseases they transmit. How did Jehovah judge the gods of Egypt when we know those gods were mythological? Read the bible folks but take off your blinders. It proves itself at the turn of nearly every page for what it is.

@joe-beyser

There is even more to the story of Adam and Eve. You see Jehovah left the children he loved unattended with a very powerful and coercive being.

It is like he built them a sandbox outside and filled it with toys and one hand grenade and said you can play with all the toys but don't touch the hand grenade thingy or it will kill you.

He then lets Eddy Haskell (from Leave it to Beaver) come over and play with his children while he Jehovah takes off somewhere.