18 Jan 22
@pb1022 saidTheists and atheists contribute to pretty much every single thread and engage with pretty much all topics on this forum and always have. I see no problem with it.
So if an OP was addressed to atheists and I started spouting off, even though I’m not an atheist, you’d be perfectly Ok with that?
18 Jan 22
@fmf saidNot an obstacle at all.
So am I. The fact that I am talking about it in a different way from you seems to be somewhat of an obstacle to you.
You’re retreating back to a moot point, a point that was already refuted.
And that moot, refuted point was that evidence for each religion is of the same weight and validity.
18 Jan 22
@fmf saidYou’re ignoring that this OP was specifically addressed to Christians. Most OPs aren’t specifically addressed to a particular group.
Theists and atheists contribute to pretty much every single thread and engage with pretty much all topics on this forum and always have. I see no problem with it.
18 Jan 22
@josephw saidSounds like predestination to me!
Romans 9:7
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Abraham had a son by Hagar. Ishmael. Islam traces its beginnings back to Abraham via Ishmael.
Isaac was the son of promise, and his descendants are the Jews through whom Jesus came directly from Adam to Mary, biologically, according to the flesh.
I hope that clears things up a bit.
@divegeester saidYou're taking predestination out of context now.
Sounds like predestination to me!
Romans 9:7 isn't a predestination proof text.
It's relative to the question of the sovereignty of God.
God's sovereignty is relative to the orchestration of events to bring about God's plan of redemption, as is in the case of Romans 9:7.
Predestination is relative to its object, which specifically concerns the transformation of the believer to the image of Christ.